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I am very outset this morning and I state that I am truly sorry for all of this and for any part which I have played.

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I am sorry for everything I did. Sorry.

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And anything that has contributed to the debacle that we are dealing with today.

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I would like to apologise to the committee that they have had to take this time to deal with this matter today.

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Why did you not discuss your years with St Joseph's Bightstout movement?

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So, given the events of the last three weeks, there is a lot that I wish to say and there is a lot that I need to say.

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So please bear with me. My aim today is to help correct and clarify some very serious matters.

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And I will be relying on my agent Noel Kelly here to go through the figures and provide greater detail.

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I would like everybody here today to understand that the figures and statements presented by ORTE over the last few weeks in relation to my remuneration have created a fog of confusion.

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Fog.

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A fog of confusion over what I was paid.

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And when I was paid.

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And what I knew.

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And when I knew it.

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Full transparency and disclosure on ORTE's part.

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I am sorry to say would simply have avoided so much of this.

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You have had your mother.

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And I am here to do one thing and one thing only ladies and gentlemen.

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You are a liar.

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Committee members.

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And that is to set the record straight and to call out some untruths.

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And it is my belief that there are seven material untruths that I would like to address.

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And the first is as follows.

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Jesus.

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This claim that I did not take a pay cut from ORTE in 2020.

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This is not true.

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I took a 20% pay cut from ORTE in my 20 to 20 to 2025 contract.

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Simple as that.

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I took a 20% pay cut from ORTE.

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I am obliged to do and present 205 radio shows and 38 as it was then live two hour late late shows under this contract.

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I am what is called an independent contractor.

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I get no pension or entitlements from ORTE.

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That is the nature of it.

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Under the terms of my contract I am allowed to do additional work outside of ORTE.

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That is also the nature of it.

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And I stress that there is nothing morally, ethically or legally wrong with me or any independent contractor doing additional work for another client outside of ORTE.

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But to be clear, I took a pay cut from ORTE of 20% in 2020 for each of the five years of my contract at a cost of 525,000 euro to me over the length of that contract.

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I will move on to my second untruth.

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The suggestion that my decision to retire from the late late show was prompted by this whole debacle.

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This is not remotely true.

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I wasn't aware of any of this fiasco when I decided to retire from the late late show.

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I made my initial decision to leave the late late show pretty much a year ago.

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It was very personal.

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It was made in the heart and in the soul.

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Thanks very much there, Schultz, Jenny Lawler and Marty Morrissey's car.

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Conor Williams, thanks very much for starting the stream there.

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But I don't appreciate the impression he was doing of me there as we started.

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But thanks very much for loaning me your t-shirt that you were wearing as well, Conor.

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And you hammered your RTE.

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Here we go.

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We've got some hot, shit hot revelations.

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I won't talk over it.

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A lot of people in this country, as you know, were burnt out and exhausted after COVID,

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doing a lot more important jobs than I was doing.

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But I'm just telling you from where I'm coming from.

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Exactly.

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So I turned it over in my mind over a few months.

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But by the time I got to January, there was no turning over in my mind.

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I knew it was time to go.

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I made the decision.

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And just to make it abundantly clear, there is zero connection between my departure and this very raw situation of recent weeks.

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You are a liar.

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Liar.

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And even then I had no inkling of the bombshell which was to come when RTE released their statement on June 22nd.

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The third untruth is that I was covertly or secretly overpaid by RTE.

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This is not true.

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I was not overpaid by RTE at any point.

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I fully accept I'm very, very well paid.

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I understand that.

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But I was fully paid in accordance with my contract, which my agent negotiated openly and honestly and in good faith.

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Stockton Rush.

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Now there are RTEs under...

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Thanks very much, Stockton Rush.

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Which we challenged them on back in...

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Covert payments.

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There are indeed RTEs over declarations of which they actually paid me in 2020 and 2021.

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This has caused justifiable anger among my colleagues.

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I understand that.

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And we're going to deal with all of that in the next few hours and indeed the next six hours or more.

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We'll stay for as long as it takes.

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Oh.

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A few times RTEs in accurate declarations is an impression that I've been less than honest.

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This is not the case.

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The fourth untruth is that I was aware that RTE were trying to conceal payments to me.

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This is not true.

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I was not aware that RTE were concealing payments to me.

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RTE acknowledged this in their statement of June 22nd, 2023, when they stated that Grant Thornton had made no findings against me.

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The fifth untruth, there was a secret...

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That last untruth is going. How are you getting on? Thanks very much.

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This is not true.

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Celtic Tiger Knights in Grigashki.

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It beggars belief.

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Think about it.

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I had a separate commercial agreement with Renault.

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Renault were involved.

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He was doing the Renault Roadshow.

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The suggestion that was a secret makes no sense.

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The sixth untruth.

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A lot of untruths going on here.

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The RTE's underwriting of Renault's payment obligations was a secret.

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This is not true.

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RTE's underwriting of Renault's payment obligations was not a secret.

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Mr. Cutty Knife and Celtic Tiger Knights, thank you very much.

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RTE committed...

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And Stockton Rush.

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...February 2020.

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To provide this guarantee in the early stages of contract negotiations around my 2020 to 25 contract.

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This is unequivocally confirmed in an email date.

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Critical document 20th of February 2020.

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From Brida O'Keefe.

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Why did you not discuss...

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To my agent...

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It was copied...

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To other members of the Executive Board...

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The Director General...

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The Director General...

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The RTE solicitors offers...

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Everyone in RTE who needed to know...

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New.

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New.

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You'll find this on page 10 of the booklet of documents you have in front of you.

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Well, we fucked.

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Higgy Schmars, thank you very much.

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And Shlippery Fates.

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And finally the seventh untruth.

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The seventh untruth, ladies and gentlemen.

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When they released the 2017, 18 and 19 earnings, as they did all in one day.

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January 20th, 2021.

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This is a question I did not ask at the time.

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This is a question I should have asked.

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I fully, fully accept that.

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What did you ask?

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You should have been asking what questions?

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I will finally explain briefly.

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And as clearly as humanly possible.

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At the end of the 2015 to 20 contract, my agent advised me that I was entitled to...

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Phenomenal.

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Phenomenal.

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Phenomenal.

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Oh.

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Fucking heavy, heavy revelations coming out here.

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If you've just joined us, it's the Public Accounts Committee.

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2023.

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Oh.

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Oh.

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Oh.

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So let me reiterate, I actually waived my entitlement to this payment,

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and I didn't receive one cent of it.

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I hid nothing.

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I had nothing to hide.

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Lots of fingernails slapping going on in the top there.

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There's a lot of fingernails tapping going on.

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He's kept it.

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The rumor on the street is that Tuberty went and got a fucking manicure earlier on

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and said to the woman doing the nails,

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I want a lacquer.

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Have you got a lacquer for my nails?

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Because I'm going to be making some heavy, heavy points

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on the fucking mahogany when I get in that committee room.

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All of the accounts in these years, 17, 18, 19,

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had accountancy reasons for...

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Big Tripod, Schnuffles, Prig, Jukebox Connors, Lucas Radaby,

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Hot Judge, Higgy Smalls, Slippery Face, Cutty Knife.

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Thank you very much.

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I'm particularly upset and disappointed about the decision

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and framing of the RT statement of June 22nd,

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which inextricably linked my name to this whole fiasco.

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No.

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My name was mentioned 15 times in that statement.

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Why did you not discuss your years with St. Joseph's Spiespout movement?

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And I was not consulted once.

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I did not have the Grant Thornton report, which RT had, and which RT acknowledged made no findings of wrongdoing on my part.

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So far there's a lot of rejection.

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He's putting the blame.

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He's throwing RT under the bus.

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Pretty much all of the damage was done.

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But there's a lot of damage done already.

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Thumbs up.

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I declared my earnings.

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I paid every cent of tax.

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Finger up.

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My employer has acknowledged that.

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It has engaged in deceptive practices to pay me practices that were hidden from me.

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Crazy bit of business.

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The result, I'm nearly finished.

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Forgive me for overgoing.

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The result of this is that I've become the face of a national scandal.

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I've been accused of being complicit, deceitful, and dishonest.

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I think the statement of June the 22nd was very unhelpful in this regard.

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Mr. Huxtable, thank you very much.

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I take full responsibility.

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I can't say it enough.

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I take full responsibility for not asking more questions back on January the 20th, 2021, when the figures for that 2017, 18, and 19 were released.

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I take responsibility for that.

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I understand.

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But that has become abundantly clear.

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Abundant.

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The RTE we love and the RTE we...

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The RTE that swindled us.

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Call my agent and ask for our help in establishing the full facts.

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Instead, they chose to hurriedly issue a deeply, deeply damaging statement on June 22nd.

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Truly madly deeply.

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I have nothing but respect.

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And admiration for that great number of decent, hardworking people in RTE.

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My colleagues, my friends.

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And I'm very sorry for those whose lives have been made difficult with an incessant dripping of new revelations.

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I'm thinking particularly in my radio show colleagues and friends.

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Incessant dripping, ladies and gentlemen. Incessant dripping.

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You are a liar.

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Clara, Clara, thank you.

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Gonna get through this.

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I put off the ground high of cards and letters from people who have written to Ryan Turbordy, Dublin.

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And I got them fair play to the post people in on post.

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And I thank the Irish people for that.

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I am hopeful that they will see from my statement and my appearance here today

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that I am determined to inform them of the truth and to demonstrate that I have nothing to hide.

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And I'm also hopeful that I will soon get back on air to do the job I love.

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Game Boy.

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Thank you all for your patience.

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Rome about a virtual environment with your avatar.

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And we've gone 15 minutes into it.

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15 minutes.

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It's normally five minutes for them.

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So I would ask you to try and be brief, as brief as you can with it, please.

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But we do want to give you the opportunity because we're...

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Why did you not mention your well-paid employment?

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With Noel Kelly.

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Reno Ireland have just tipped.

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Thanks very much to Reno.

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Here we go.

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It's the slug, man.

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And to meet the House.

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Because we have huge respect for it.

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And we haven't spoken to anybody else.

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And we just wanted to get the opportunity to put our flag on.

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I've seen photographic evidence that this fella is jacking my swag.

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He was wearing my kind of style.

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Deputies, thank you for the opportunity to meet with you today.

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Yeah, I've seen photographs that is nearly...

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It's like you're wearing his clothes or he's wearing your clothes, Sam.

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And let's hear what he's got to say first.

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The fact that this fella has been...

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The fact that this fella has been...

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The fact that this fella has been...

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The fact that this fella has been...

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The fact that this fella has been...

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The fact that this fella has been...

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The fact that this fella has been...

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The fact that this fella has been...

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The fact that this fella has been...

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545 for the five years...

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He received those fees...

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What's the on about?

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Exactly.

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Nothing more...

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And nothing less.

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Alright.

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This is confirmed by the extracts...

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From Ryan's filed accounts...

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Company Tuttle Productions...

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Which we also include in the pack.

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We note that the accounts of Tuttle Productions...

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Run from January to December...

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Whereas RT's contract ran from September.

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In January 21...

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When RT made its incorrect declarations...

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They knew what they had paid Ryan.

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Indeed the Chief Financial Officer...

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E-mailed us on the 19th of December...

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Press!

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...2019...

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Under pressure...

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Bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum...

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Bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum...

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...relevant years...

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Correctly.

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But just over a year later...

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In January 2021...

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RT made false or incorrect declarations...

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About the same figures...

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In some respects...

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This was an accident waiting to happen...

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We'd previously asked RT to give us reasonable notice...

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When they planned to publish figures...

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My e-mail on the 16th of January...

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Yeah he's...

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He's been jacking my swag...

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He's not looking like me today...

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But I've seen some false...

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Photographs...

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Of him...

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And he was definitely trying...

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He was definitely...

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Trying to take my style away from me...

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I still don't understand...

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In March 2020...

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He looks a bit...

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He looks a bit better...

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He's taking the water on...

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He's taking the water...

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He's taking sips...

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Definitely the sign of a man feeling the stress...

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feeling the stress.

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What we watching? Thank you very much.

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Ario, Jorka, McGurk, and Vlembag,

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and 9ml Jill.

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Tuba Lies, Harry Potter, Glasses,

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Colum Meister. Thank you very much.

382
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He agreed that Ryan was not going to raise an invoice for this,

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and they wanted to agree how to explain it.

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But in the draft which was sent to us,

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they proposed to change the payments

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which they made to Ryan already,

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effectively lowering them by 120,000 euros.

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I think I'd just seen a fella picking his nose there.

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They're not going to offset 120,000.

390
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We had agreed not to ask for it in 2020.

391
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I think I'd just seen a fella picking his nose there

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on national television.

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We argued against this,

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and they accepted our points at the time.

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This is clear from the document pages 14 to 16 of our pack.

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For some reason, however,

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Confused thinking returned,

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and they published again the wrong figures in January 2021,

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effectively causing his reputation damage to Ryan the process.

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Huge reputational damage, sorry.

401
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One important point I should add.

402
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Just last month, on the 23rd of June,

403
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RT published new figures.

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Effectively, they restated figures for payments to Ryan

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for 17, 18 and 19,

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and added in declarations for figures paid to him in 2021.

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Bizarrely, the figures they declare for both 20 and 21 are...

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P.A.C. the musical,

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20 Nights in the Gaiety this summer.

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Tupac Shakur.

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Featuring a hologram of Tupac.

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P.A.C. the musical.

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Let's turn to the Renault contract, which ran parallel to the...

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It's the Broadway show everybody's screaming about.

415
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P.A.C. the musical.

416
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Featuring a hologram of Tupac Shakur.

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...December 2019,

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from RT's then Chief Financial Officer,

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Miss Brida O'Keefe.

420
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This email sets out RT's starting position

421
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for negotiations on the 2020 contract.

422
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You will see that this email

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is where the idea of a commercial sponsorship

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for the third party

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with an annual fee of 75,000 euros is first suggested.

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This comes from...

427
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Featuring guest appearances

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from Tupac Shakur the hologram

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and none other

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than Pac-Man the video game man

431
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and Mrs. Pac-Man as well.

432
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...this Renault contract.

433
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This is perhaps

434
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the most shocking revelation

435
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of this morning.

436
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Since this controversy began,

437
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RT tried to distance themselves from this decision.

438
00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:46,780
Effectively, they have blamed

439
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the former Director General Dee Forbes

440
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for doing a solo run

441
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and giving a verbal commitment

442
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to underwrite the contract

443
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on a Zoom call in May.

444
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RT executives had said

445
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that there was a strong pushback...

446
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Don't oppress with me all the time.

447
00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:03,240
...against the idea of underwriting the agreement.

448
00:18:04,360 --> 00:18:05,420
That is incorrect.

449
00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:07,760
I refer you to page 10 of the pack.

450
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The pack.

451
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So at the time,

452
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Ms. Bredo Keefe

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was Chief Financial Officer of RTE.

454
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Lot of waffle.

455
00:18:14,120 --> 00:18:16,100
This is going to go on for six hours, I hear.

456
00:18:16,620 --> 00:18:18,040
Slush puppy, thank you very much.

457
00:18:18,100 --> 00:18:20,120
Tub's COVID account, thank you very much.

458
00:18:20,460 --> 00:18:21,080
Say nothing.

459
00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:21,840
Good lad.

460
00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:23,380
Another member of the Executive Board,

461
00:18:24,380 --> 00:18:25,560
the then Director General,

462
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and RT's solicitor.

463
00:18:27,580 --> 00:18:28,420
In this email,

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Ms. Bredo Keefe responds in red

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to various points which had been discussed.

466
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She states at the top of the email

467
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that this is our final position.

468
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The negotiations go back and forth,

469
00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:40,020
back and forth.

470
00:18:40,120 --> 00:18:41,120
This is our final position

471
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in respect of the new contract.

472
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On the last paragraph,

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on this page...

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I've just realized that he is still

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being employed or still being paid,

476
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so this is all on the public purse as well.

477
00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:01,460
There was no secret.

478
00:19:03,140 --> 00:19:04,420
There is no secret.

479
00:19:05,140 --> 00:19:06,040
There was no secret.

480
00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:07,860
To our surprise,

481
00:19:07,940 --> 00:19:09,840
Ms. O'Keefe told the committee last week...

482
00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:14,640
Thank you very much, Biggie Schmalls.

483
00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:19,560
And Yup the FGS, thank you very much.

484
00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:23,000
And Ryan Pack Dyer, thank you very much.

485
00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:25,640
Making exactly that offer a month earlier.

486
00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:26,740
Don't you have a life?

487
00:19:27,300 --> 00:19:29,240
Last week, nobody from RT here,

488
00:19:29,500 --> 00:19:30,200
with Ms. O'Keefe,

489
00:19:30,300 --> 00:19:31,420
challenged her when she said that.

490
00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:33,280
And we were surprised too,

491
00:19:35,100 --> 00:19:36,420
because on the 30th of June,

492
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four days before she appeared

493
00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:40,140
at the media committee,

494
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we wrote to RTE

495
00:19:41,300 --> 00:19:42,660
and highlighted the significance

496
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of Ms. O'Keefe's email.

497
00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:47,420
Her email also cast a new light

498
00:19:47,420 --> 00:19:49,020
on the contribution of Adrian Lynch,

499
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Deputy Director General,

500
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to this committee.

501
00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:53,340
Mr Lynch told the committee

502
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that agreement was to give,

503
00:19:55,620 --> 00:19:56,100
underwrite,

504
00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:57,220
the contract was given,

505
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verbally,

506
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on a Zoom call

507
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with NK Management

508
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on the 7th of May

509
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by the then Director General.

510
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And he described this

511
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as significant point

512
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at the centre of this.

513
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RTE had tried to portray

514
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the guarantee as the decision

515
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given late in the negotiations

516
00:20:13,460 --> 00:20:14,920
on a Zoom call by Dee Forbes

517
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with the awareness

518
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of the Executive Board.

519
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Clearly, this is not correct.

520
00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:21,800
The decision was taken early

521
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by RTE

522
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and known widely

523
00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:24,100
within the Executive Board

524
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and RTE.

525
00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:27,400
So, let me move to the invoicing

526
00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:28,800
arrangements for a Renault contract.

527
00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:30,700
Our document pack shows

528
00:20:30,700 --> 00:20:32,420
that RTE did not just suggest

529
00:20:32,420 --> 00:20:33,220
the idea of the contract

530
00:20:33,220 --> 00:20:33,680
with Renault.

531
00:20:33,940 --> 00:20:35,720
It oversaw every development

532
00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:37,260
but an implementation of same.

533
00:20:38,140 --> 00:20:38,900
We were happy with that.

534
00:20:39,060 --> 00:20:40,080
We knew Renault was a major,

535
00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:41,140
major sponsor for RTE.

536
00:20:41,140 --> 00:20:41,660
Renault.

537
00:20:41,980 --> 00:20:42,920
So, RTE would be committed

538
00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:44,120
to keeping them happy.

539
00:20:45,100 --> 00:20:46,100
We knew the contract for Renault

540
00:20:46,100 --> 00:20:46,980
was a separate contract

541
00:20:46,980 --> 00:20:47,880
from Ryan's independent

542
00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:48,780
contractor services.

543
00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:51,900
Ryan had for RTE

544
00:20:51,900 --> 00:20:53,340
for radio and TV work.

545
00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:54,600
Renault.

546
00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:55,140
We understood that

547
00:20:55,140 --> 00:20:55,980
Ryan would have to do

548
00:20:55,980 --> 00:20:57,300
extra work for Renault,

549
00:20:57,640 --> 00:20:58,500
but that was no difference

550
00:20:58,500 --> 00:20:59,120
to the other work

551
00:20:59,120 --> 00:20:59,760
that Ryan would do

552
00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:00,500
for the BBC

553
00:21:00,500 --> 00:21:02,380
or with his publishers,

554
00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:02,860
etc.

555
00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:04,100
This was just a separate

556
00:21:04,100 --> 00:21:05,340
commercial agreement.

557
00:21:06,260 --> 00:21:06,780
Ryan was agreeing

558
00:21:06,780 --> 00:21:07,960
to a substantial pay cut

559
00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:08,460
from RTE

560
00:21:08,460 --> 00:21:09,160
and he was entitled

561
00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:09,880
to seek other work

562
00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:10,800
outside of RTE.

563
00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:12,640
There was nothing secret

564
00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:13,320
about this.

565
00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:15,180
Nothing secret about this.

566
00:21:15,260 --> 00:21:15,820
Far from it,

567
00:21:15,980 --> 00:21:16,980
the contract required Ryan

568
00:21:16,980 --> 00:21:17,820
to do public appearances

569
00:21:17,820 --> 00:21:18,340
for Renault,

570
00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:19,700
which they could seek

571
00:21:19,700 --> 00:21:21,140
and expect attention

572
00:21:21,140 --> 00:21:22,120
and indeed they did.

573
00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:24,860
There was nothing secretive

574
00:21:24,860 --> 00:21:25,980
about Renault.

575
00:21:26,300 --> 00:21:27,660
The deal with Renault

576
00:21:27,660 --> 00:21:29,260
was all about Borge.

577
00:21:30,180 --> 00:21:30,780
Renault.

578
00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:32,920
Renault.

579
00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:35,400
Renault.

580
00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:35,680
Renault.

581
00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:58,420
Return of the pack.

582
00:21:59,360 --> 00:22:00,960
Return of the pack.

583
00:22:01,300 --> 00:22:02,260
Come on.

584
00:22:03,220 --> 00:22:04,900
You know I've grabbed your sack.

585
00:22:04,900 --> 00:22:06,440
Not really.

586
00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:07,880
It never happened.

587
00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:08,520
The address to be put

588
00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:09,100
on the invoice.

589
00:22:09,260 --> 00:22:09,920
The VAT reference

590
00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:11,100
to be included

591
00:22:11,100 --> 00:22:11,960
in the invoice

592
00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:13,180
and it instructs us

593
00:22:13,180 --> 00:22:14,720
not to put any person's name on it.

594
00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:16,820
This email also gave us

595
00:22:16,820 --> 00:22:17,620
general insurance

596
00:22:17,620 --> 00:22:18,740
from a colleague

597
00:22:18,740 --> 00:22:19,780
from a series that said

598
00:22:19,780 --> 00:22:21,460
if he meaning...

599
00:22:21,460 --> 00:22:22,500
A shout out to Jimmy

600
00:22:22,500 --> 00:22:23,340
and Adam,

601
00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:24,800
the SPS crew

602
00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:25,680
grinding it out.

603
00:22:25,820 --> 00:22:27,060
I hope you're getting on well, lads.

604
00:22:27,460 --> 00:22:28,720
And Renault Tuberty,

605
00:22:28,900 --> 00:22:29,840
thank you very much as well.

606
00:22:29,900 --> 00:22:31,840
And it's a well-paid job.

607
00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:33,880
Quasi-quarantine conspiracy

608
00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,120
and Frankie fucking Schoen.

609
00:22:36,260 --> 00:22:37,120
Thank you very much.

610
00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:39,240
I drove you in a dream.

611
00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:40,780
I know well who you car.

612
00:22:41,140 --> 00:22:42,180
Thank you very much.

613
00:22:42,860 --> 00:22:44,300
that was acting on behalf of RTE.

614
00:22:44,900 --> 00:22:45,520
We had no idea

615
00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:46,600
they might be making payments

616
00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:48,800
to us on behalf of RTE

617
00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:49,620
or that the payments

618
00:22:49,620 --> 00:22:50,340
were linked to RTE

619
00:22:50,340 --> 00:22:51,780
underwriting the Renault contract.

620
00:22:52,660 --> 00:22:53,100
Renault.

621
00:22:53,300 --> 00:22:54,100
Never said that to us.

622
00:22:54,660 --> 00:22:55,220
Renault.

623
00:22:55,980 --> 00:22:57,600
And Renault never said that to us.

624
00:22:58,280 --> 00:22:59,480
We simply followed instructions

625
00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:00,020
we were given

626
00:23:00,020 --> 00:23:01,920
as we had with the first invoice.

627
00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:03,520
You will see a copy

628
00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:04,840
of the two invoices raised

629
00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:06,360
in the name of us

630
00:23:06,360 --> 00:23:07,580
that's been sent by email

631
00:23:07,580 --> 00:23:08,440
from us to RTE

632
00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:10,460
in the pack pages 26, 27.

633
00:23:11,980 --> 00:23:12,680
People have asked us

634
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:13,220
why you went along

635
00:23:13,220 --> 00:23:13,540
with those instructions.

636
00:23:13,540 --> 00:23:14,040
I think Alan,

637
00:23:14,260 --> 00:23:15,460
just want to say

638
00:23:15,460 --> 00:23:16,480
thanks very much everybody

639
00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:17,220
for tuning in.

640
00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:18,100
Hopefully,

641
00:23:18,300 --> 00:23:19,920
we get some answers

642
00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:21,140
today.

643
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:24,040
Also,

644
00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:25,420
I actually want to say

645
00:23:25,420 --> 00:23:27,160
thank you to Renault Harris

646
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:28,720
and Evan English,

647
00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:29,280
the Irish,

648
00:23:29,380 --> 00:23:30,160
thank you very much

649
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:31,200
and Frankie Scales.

650
00:23:33,140 --> 00:23:33,620
So far,

651
00:23:33,860 --> 00:23:34,480
we've had

652
00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:36,180
allegations

653
00:23:36,180 --> 00:23:38,580
of financial

654
00:23:38,580 --> 00:23:40,340
misdoing

655
00:23:40,340 --> 00:23:41,080
or wrongdoing

656
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:42,560
on behalf of RTE.

657
00:23:42,860 --> 00:23:44,760
It's getting deep.

658
00:23:47,940 --> 00:23:48,940
And I just want to say

659
00:23:48,940 --> 00:23:49,620
thanks very much

660
00:23:49,620 --> 00:23:50,740
to Larry Goodman's

661
00:23:50,740 --> 00:23:51,280
horse meat

662
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:52,380
and none other than

663
00:23:52,380 --> 00:23:54,600
Anaconda G

664
00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:55,640
with the four tweezy

665
00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:56,180
and the heezy.

666
00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:56,940
Thanks very much

667
00:23:56,940 --> 00:23:57,600
for that as well.

668
00:24:00,540 --> 00:24:05,820
And it was a beautiful

669
00:24:05,820 --> 00:24:07,540
bit of waffle

670
00:24:07,540 --> 00:24:08,640
there from the man

671
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:09,200
himself,

672
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:09,800
Noel Kelly,

673
00:24:10,020 --> 00:24:11,360
who's the style jacker.

674
00:24:11,740 --> 00:24:12,900
Tried to jack my style.

675
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:14,600
And Anaconda G

676
00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:15,740
with a lovely four tweezy

677
00:24:15,740 --> 00:24:16,640
coming in the house.

678
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:17,720
Lovely stuff.

679
00:24:19,060 --> 00:24:19,760
Sorry there,

680
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:20,060
Tom.

681
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:21,060
I was just,

682
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:22,040
when you were doing

683
00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:23,100
your instant cream play

684
00:24:23,100 --> 00:24:23,300
there,

685
00:24:23,360 --> 00:24:24,480
I was copying your voice.

686
00:24:24,540 --> 00:24:25,400
I'm sorry about that.

687
00:24:26,460 --> 00:24:26,660
Yeah,

688
00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:27,200
well look,

689
00:24:27,380 --> 00:24:28,120
I've already,

690
00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:29,100
I've had it up to here

691
00:24:29,100 --> 00:24:30,460
with people jacking the swag

692
00:24:30,460 --> 00:24:31,500
that Noel Kelly buck

693
00:24:31,500 --> 00:24:32,120
is one of them.

694
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:33,840
I don't need,

695
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:34,940
I don't need any cheek

696
00:24:34,940 --> 00:24:36,320
from you yourself as well.

697
00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:37,480
That Ryan had just signed up

698
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:38,500
to new cuts

699
00:24:38,500 --> 00:24:41,340
in his 2020 contract

700
00:24:41,340 --> 00:24:43,060
of 525,000.

701
00:24:43,100 --> 00:24:43,840
Did he just say

702
00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:44,820
Ryan had signed up

703
00:24:44,820 --> 00:24:45,680
to boot cuts?

704
00:24:45,900 --> 00:24:47,360
Of 120,000.

705
00:24:48,220 --> 00:24:49,300
Or new cuts?

706
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:50,040
For more cuts,

707
00:24:50,100 --> 00:24:51,380
given the size of those cuts.

708
00:24:51,700 --> 00:24:52,500
And to conclude,

709
00:24:52,660 --> 00:24:53,160
well,

710
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,060
given the size of the boot cuts

711
00:24:55,060 --> 00:24:57,420
that Noel Kelly was seen wearing,

712
00:24:57,660 --> 00:24:59,100
I wouldn't,

713
00:24:59,100 --> 00:25:00,180
I wouldn't really believe

714
00:25:00,180 --> 00:25:01,140
anything he's saying.

715
00:25:01,780 --> 00:25:02,880
I wouldn't believe a word

716
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:03,920
out of this lad's mouth.

717
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:05,460
But I would though,

718
00:25:05,540 --> 00:25:06,160
I would actually,

719
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:07,140
just on the record,

720
00:25:07,340 --> 00:25:08,200
I'd believe it all,

721
00:25:08,300 --> 00:25:09,480
just in case I get sued.

722
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:26,120
It's a hybrid skunk.

723
00:25:26,120 --> 00:25:29,440
RT is a hybrid organisation.

724
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:31,760
It blends all the euphoria

725
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:33,900
of a heavy sativa dominant hit

726
00:25:33,900 --> 00:25:37,400
with a beautiful,

727
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:38,360
beautiful,

728
00:25:38,360 --> 00:25:44,900
lie back and dream

729
00:25:44,900 --> 00:25:47,280
sort of Indica vibe as well

730
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:47,760
with, you know,

731
00:25:47,820 --> 00:25:48,640
with your nationwide

732
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:50,520
and your kind of,

733
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,180
kind of chillax programs

734
00:25:52,180 --> 00:25:52,780
like that.

735
00:25:52,860 --> 00:25:53,500
Your kind of

736
00:25:53,500 --> 00:25:55,460
home in the sun

737
00:25:55,460 --> 00:25:56,720
and how to buy,

738
00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:57,900
how to buy a cheap house

739
00:25:57,900 --> 00:25:58,460
in Ireland.

740
00:25:58,620 --> 00:25:59,820
All the property shows

741
00:25:59,820 --> 00:26:00,320
that you get,

742
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:01,300
it's great to see

743
00:26:01,300 --> 00:26:02,240
all our money being put

744
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:03,120
towards that sort of stuff

745
00:26:03,120 --> 00:26:03,520
as well

746
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:05,300
in the current climate

747
00:26:05,300 --> 00:26:06,260
when you can't even

748
00:26:06,260 --> 00:26:06,880
buy a home

749
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:08,120
or even rent a house.

750
00:26:08,360 --> 00:26:09,920
It's great to be teased

751
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:11,740
daily with those programs.

752
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:12,560
RT Slushman,

753
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:13,300
thank you very much.

754
00:26:13,620 --> 00:26:14,280
Steve Jennings,

755
00:26:14,420 --> 00:26:15,220
thank you very much.

756
00:26:15,380 --> 00:26:15,920
Smelly Kelly,

757
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:16,600
Rub's Belly,

758
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:17,520
thanks very much as well.

759
00:26:18,380 --> 00:26:18,720
Thank you.

760
00:26:20,540 --> 00:26:21,240
Just before,

761
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:22,080
thanks for those

762
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:22,660
opening statements,

763
00:26:22,820 --> 00:26:23,740
just before we move

764
00:26:23,740 --> 00:26:25,380
to the committee members,

765
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:26,920
just,

766
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:28,280
there's one issue,

767
00:26:28,460 --> 00:26:29,260
Mr. Trubber,

768
00:26:29,300 --> 00:26:30,320
that you might clarify for me.

769
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:32,400
The issue of the

770
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:33,660
75,000 payments,

771
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:34,800
obviously the invices

772
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:36,240
for that was what

773
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:36,920
brought this to light

774
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:38,160
in March when the

775
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:38,900
auditors found him.

776
00:26:39,620 --> 00:26:40,740
And when I first heard

777
00:26:40,740 --> 00:26:41,240
about this,

778
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:42,940
and I wanted to ask you

779
00:26:42,940 --> 00:26:43,540
this this morning,

780
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:45,300
just to set the scene

781
00:26:45,300 --> 00:26:45,880
for this meeting,

782
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:47,860
that those,

783
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:50,660
that 75,000 shortfall gap

784
00:26:50,660 --> 00:26:51,720
that had to be met up,

785
00:26:51,820 --> 00:26:52,500
call it what you like,

786
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:53,700
additional payment,

787
00:26:54,420 --> 00:26:55,500
the country was shut down.

788
00:26:57,260 --> 00:26:58,460
Thousands of my constituents

789
00:26:58,460 --> 00:27:00,080
and people around the country

790
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:01,280
were on 2 or 300 euros

791
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,000
was a weak pandemic payment.

792
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:05,060
And you and your agent,

793
00:27:05,660 --> 00:27:05,960
you know,

794
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:06,860
between you,

795
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:08,040
did you have any doubts

796
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:09,200
about the merits of that

797
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:10,940
or the credibility of looking,

798
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:11,720
you know,

799
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:13,500
to make up that 75,000

800
00:27:13,500 --> 00:27:15,260
at that particular point?

801
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,260
sensual piece of tub thing.

802
00:27:18,260 --> 00:27:19,080
Thank you very much.

803
00:27:19,420 --> 00:27:22,180
It's a sensual piece of tub thing.

804
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:24,160
Let's,

805
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,200
let's see if there's a good answer

806
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:27,220
to this question here.

807
00:27:27,300 --> 00:27:27,600
And we'll,

808
00:27:27,660 --> 00:27:29,480
we'll try and do a bit of Adam Curtis,

809
00:27:29,740 --> 00:27:32,520
burial sort of stuff to it as well.

810
00:27:32,780 --> 00:27:34,100
hopefully it won't ruin everything.

811
00:27:34,100 --> 00:27:35,240
And your own credibility.

812
00:27:35,500 --> 00:27:36,360
I appreciate the question

813
00:27:36,360 --> 00:27:37,560
and the kind words.

814
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:38,120
Short answers.

815
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:39,020
I'll keep them short.

816
00:27:39,360 --> 00:27:39,380
I,

817
00:27:39,380 --> 00:27:39,680
I,

818
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:41,640
I think what I'm going to be saying

819
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:42,520
a lot today,

820
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:44,780
which is in relation to that,

821
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:45,880
is that,

822
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:46,540
is that,

823
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:47,280
my,

824
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:48,300
my agent and friend,

825
00:27:48,380 --> 00:27:48,820
Noel Kelly,

826
00:27:49,700 --> 00:27:52,680
it's his job to get the best deal

827
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:54,080
as he sees it for his client.

828
00:27:54,380 --> 00:27:55,180
On your instructions,

829
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:55,820
Mr. Torboli.

830
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:56,100
Well,

831
00:27:56,120 --> 00:27:56,720
you could say that,

832
00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:56,900
yeah,

833
00:27:56,940 --> 00:27:57,240
of course.

834
00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:57,580
I mean,

835
00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:58,080
he,

836
00:27:58,080 --> 00:27:59,820
he would absolutely try and get them.

837
00:28:00,180 --> 00:28:00,420
Well,

838
00:28:00,420 --> 00:28:01,600
he considers to be the best deal.

839
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:02,280
Do you have any doubts

840
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:03,120
in those discussions,

841
00:28:03,260 --> 00:28:04,700
those discussions that you had between you,

842
00:28:05,140 --> 00:28:06,480
back in the earlier part of 2020?

843
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:06,780
I think,

844
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:08,960
I think it would be fair to say

845
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,540
that in terms of the,

846
00:28:11,540 --> 00:28:12,080
the,

847
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,320
the financial implications

848
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,180
of the commercial side of RG.

849
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:18,640
This is the story about a man

850
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,160
who will pay money by Renault.

851
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:22,780
Did you have doubts about the,

852
00:28:22,780 --> 00:28:24,360
the public optics of this

853
00:28:24,360 --> 00:28:26,500
and the possible reputation of damage

854
00:28:26,500 --> 00:28:28,460
of looking for that 75,000

855
00:28:28,460 --> 00:28:29,580
in those circumstances?

856
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:30,280
Yes or no?

857
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:31,580
And did you discuss that,

858
00:28:31,660 --> 00:28:32,300
the merits of that?

859
00:28:32,660 --> 00:28:33,440
That's all I want to know.

860
00:28:33,820 --> 00:28:35,800
I would say that I would always have doubts

861
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:37,020
about doing too much.

862
00:28:37,340 --> 00:28:38,800
And did you discuss that with your agent?

863
00:28:40,020 --> 00:28:40,700
Can,

864
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:41,800
could you feed us,

865
00:28:41,860 --> 00:28:42,600
in the chat please,

866
00:28:42,660 --> 00:28:43,820
could you feed us lines

867
00:28:43,820 --> 00:28:45,200
from fucking Adam Curtis

868
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:45,780
sort of stuff

869
00:28:45,780 --> 00:28:47,700
that will fit this particular thing?

870
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:49,700
I'll put the voice over on,

871
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:51,180
do the burial tune

872
00:28:51,180 --> 00:28:52,880
and try and do something with it live.

873
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:53,980
Thanks for,

874
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:55,660
it can be a collaborative effort then.

875
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:56,880
George Washington's ghost,

876
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:57,540
thank you very much.

877
00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:57,920
I say,

878
00:28:58,300 --> 00:28:59,200
you do your job

879
00:28:59,200 --> 00:28:59,820
and I do mine

880
00:28:59,820 --> 00:29:00,720
and that's how it works.

881
00:29:01,100 --> 00:29:01,780
But you knew that,

882
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:02,720
you knew that this gap

883
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:03,340
had to be met up

884
00:29:03,340 --> 00:29:04,540
and this 75,000

885
00:29:04,540 --> 00:29:05,100
had to be

886
00:29:05,100 --> 00:29:07,140
magiced up somewhere or another.

887
00:29:08,140 --> 00:29:09,120
I trust in the process.

888
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:09,960
Yes.

889
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:11,020
So you're terrified

890
00:29:11,020 --> 00:29:11,780
that you've no doubts

891
00:29:11,780 --> 00:29:12,360
about the merits,

892
00:29:12,740 --> 00:29:13,340
the credibility

893
00:29:13,340 --> 00:29:15,640
or the possible reputational damage.

894
00:29:16,020 --> 00:29:16,760
That must be discussed.

895
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:17,720
That was not discussed.

896
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:18,380
Okay, thank you.

897
00:29:18,540 --> 00:29:18,820
Thank you.

898
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:19,660
Deputy Imelda Munster,

899
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:20,520
15 minutes.

900
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:22,960
Good morning to our guests.

901
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:24,460
Ah, fuck it.

902
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:25,540
Fuck it.

903
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:27,280
I just want to start off

904
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,060
with the tripartite agreement,

905
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:29,700
Mr. Kelly.

906
00:29:30,700 --> 00:29:32,060
I fucked it up.

907
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:33,300
I fucked it up.

908
00:29:33,340 --> 00:29:34,460
But there was some good lines there.

909
00:29:34,540 --> 00:29:34,800
Wait a sec.

910
00:29:35,420 --> 00:29:36,540
No, I'm going to go for it again.

911
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:37,240
I'll go for it again.

912
00:29:37,420 --> 00:29:38,080
Tell us briefly,

913
00:29:38,180 --> 00:29:39,600
how did that actually come about?

914
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:41,440
What was the reason for it?

915
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:44,200
I'll just refer to some of my notes

916
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:44,680
if you don't mind.

917
00:29:47,660 --> 00:29:48,540
How it came about,

918
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:50,400
it was an RTE initiative.

919
00:29:51,100 --> 00:29:51,440
RTE,

920
00:29:52,020 --> 00:29:53,040
Renault's obviously.

921
00:29:53,260 --> 00:29:53,960
Yeah, okay.

922
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:55,060
Sorry, just for a second.

923
00:29:55,140 --> 00:29:56,200
It was an RTE initiative,

924
00:29:56,300 --> 00:29:57,760
but it had to stem from somewhere.

925
00:29:57,860 --> 00:30:00,400
You said in your opening statement

926
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:02,540
that Ryan was agreeing

927
00:30:02,540 --> 00:30:04,700
to a substantial pay cut from RTE.

928
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:05,960
So was it,

929
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,240
did it come about on the basis

930
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,180
of you negotiating with RTE?

931
00:30:11,540 --> 00:30:11,760
No, no.

932
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:13,280
Right, so how did it come about?

933
00:30:13,300 --> 00:30:13,780
It had no relation.

934
00:30:15,180 --> 00:30:17,860
Ryan's contract is for 205 radio shows

935
00:30:17,860 --> 00:30:21,580
and it's for 38 tour TV shows.

936
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:23,960
This was a totally separate agreement.

937
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:25,500
When it came about,

938
00:30:26,660 --> 00:30:28,840
Renault and RTE wanted Ryan

939
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,920
to do more work around the sponsorship.

940
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:34,480
This is the story about a man

941
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,380
who was paid money by Renault.

942
00:30:37,100 --> 00:30:39,060
We live in a time when all elites,

943
00:30:39,220 --> 00:30:40,540
whether on the left or the right,

944
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:42,340
believe in rigid rules that say

945
00:30:42,340 --> 00:30:43,560
there is no alternative

946
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,080
to the present political and economic system.

947
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:51,760
The sponsor wanted us to do activity to banish the sponsorship around the dealers.

948
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:53,760
But why would RTE...

949
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:54,760
...of their own back...

950
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:55,760
...the servant of the Fed to Fed...

951
00:30:55,760 --> 00:31:01,760
...who's job is to pull back and tell dramatic stories that bring power to focus, find it impossible

952
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:06,760
because things like economic theory are both incomprehensible and, above all, boring.

953
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:13,760
Why would RTE, and who in RTE, came to you and said, "Listen, we want to look after Ryan, we want to sell a separate base deal."

954
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:15,760
This was a new kind of deal.

955
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,760
A Renault car, Renault Clio based deal.

956
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:23,760
You did not initiate that in any shape...

957
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:30,760
The spectacle of TDs greedily grasping their opportunity to feel morality superior is frustrating.

958
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:35,760
Most of them are on the take, and never say no to a lovely pile of free money.

959
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:44,760
Under the contract, the proposed terms of the new contract, this came from...

960
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:48,760
...Bred O'Keefe and was coming to other people as well.

961
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:49,760
So they wanted Ryan...

962
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:51,760
...and Renault had wanted Ryan to do...

963
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:52,760
...to go to the dealers...

964
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:53,760
...to go to the dealers...

965
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:54,760
...to go to the dealers...

966
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:55,760
...to meet...

967
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:56,760
Papa Nicole, eh?

968
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:57,760
The relationship with the sponsors...

969
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:02,760
There's a lot of paper shuffling going on. There's a lot of...

970
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:06,760
...looking for figures, but there's no answers coming in.

971
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:09,760
The relationship with RTE, and the relationship is...

972
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:11,760
It's probably the biggest sponsorship.

973
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:18,760
So RTE contacted you and said, "Listen, we're a little bit concerned. Ryan is taking a pay cut. We want to set up a separate deal."

974
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:20,760
This is nothing about pay cuts.

975
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:21,760
This is nothing about pay cuts.

976
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:22,760
This is nothing about pay cuts.

977
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:23,760
This is a separate...

978
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:30,760
...McGax asks, "Is Tuberti's agent Tucker Suleiman from Dragon's Den?"

979
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,760
I haven't watched Dragon's Den in a while, but he does look dragon-esque.

980
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:38,760
It does look like he would throw wads of cash towards...

981
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,760
...crazy ideas at the drop of a hat.

982
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:49,760
"We would also need a side letter agreement from RTE to guarantee and underwrite this fee for the duration of the contract...

983
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:58,760
...and beyond into the next contract. So you sought a guarantee for a deal that you'd nothing really to do."

984
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:00,760
You've peddled your lives all over the world.

985
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:06,760
Why I was looking for a guarantee is quite simple. It was never for RTE to pay it. It was that if the sponsor changes...

986
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:07,760
It looks...

987
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:11,760
It looks as though Ryan's gonna just let him take the flack now.

988
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:16,760
So it will be a lot of him talking. I think Ryan said his piece.

989
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:18,760
And that's that.

990
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:22,760
...that RTE would pay if the deal went belly up.

991
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:28,760
It was never for RTE to pay. The guarantee was around if another sponsor came in that they would have...

992
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:34,760
So again, the relationship is with RTE and the sponsor, not with us. So they'd have to talk to the sponsor and say...

993
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:42,760
"Do you want him... would you like him to do...?" The sponsor obviously wants to have the host perform different duties for them.

994
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:46,760
"So you didn't agree with RTE underwriting the deal?"

995
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:48,760
"It wasn't about underwriting... it was about..."

996
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:50,760
"I love women." "I'm mad about women."

997
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:51,760
"I'm mad about women."

998
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:52,760
"I've been..."

999
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:53,760
"No, the sponsor's still there."

1000
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:54,760
"No, the sponsor's still there."

1001
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:58,760
"No, Reynolds was still... I'm talking about the tripart, I'm talking about years two and three as well, right?"

1002
00:33:58,760 --> 00:33:59,760
"Yes."

1003
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:06,760
"Not only did RTE underwrite the Reynolds contract, but they also... there was an agreement there to underwrite the two."

1004
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:28,760
"So the consensus is he's doing okay so far. Mass side says he's doing okay. Seems to be fielding the questions okay. There's been no smoking gun, so to speak, as of yet. Nothing really has rocked us inside the Oireachtas, which is probably where the area is, the Oireachtas committee. Nothing has really rocked the boat so far.

1005
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:36,760
"Tuberty came out swinging, leveling accusations of tomfoolery at RTE."

1006
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:43,760
"Which is quite amazing, considering that he's probably, you know, he might even be back working there this week or next."

1007
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:48,760
"And she, in that email, in page 10 of the pack, was responding to your request."

1008
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,760
"I tell you, Renault, where are they in all of this?"

1009
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,760
"Do you know, when are we gonna get to hear from Renault?"

1010
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:59,760
"So, I want to hear from them and what they had to say about the situation."

1011
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:18,760
"There's one thing about, and you said that Ryan was agreeing to substantial pay cut and he was entitled to seek work elsewhere. And that's absolutely fine. Nobody has an issue with this. But the problem here is that the deal was underwritten at your request."

1012
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,760
"Thank you very much. I'm not real. Take your meds. Thank you very, very much."

1013
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,760
"At your request by the public purse."

1014
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:25,760
"No."

1015
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:26,760
"That's the, that's the problem here."

1016
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:27,760
"Okay."

1017
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:34,760
"The deal was underwritten at your request for the three years of the contract, and it was paid for by public monies."

1018
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:35,760
"That's the issue."

1019
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,760
"It was on the public purse."

1020
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:40,760
"It was on the public purse."

1021
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:44,760
"Because the relationship with the sponsor is with RTE, it's not with us."

1022
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:46,760
"Underwritten by who? RTE?"

1023
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:47,760
"Yeah."

1024
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:49,760
"Yeah, the public purse. Yeah."

1025
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:51,760
"But the, but the sponsor, it's actually about the sponsorship."

1026
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:52,760
"We, we, we..."

1027
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:53,760
"I just want, no, look, you..."

1028
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:55,760
"So, in relation, in relation to..."

1029
00:35:55,760 --> 00:36:01,760
"You requested to be underwritten by RTE, and that could only mean that RTE take the hit for it and they pony up."

1030
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:03,760
"I just want to move on, because time is up the essence."

1031
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:04,760
"No, but that will..."

1032
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:05,760
"Pony up."

1033
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,760
"Pony up, Kelly."

1034
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:10,760
"Giddy up, Kelly."

1035
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,760
"You're taking us for a ride."

1036
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:14,760
"You pony."

1037
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:15,760
"You're taking us for a ride."

1038
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:16,760
"You pony."

1039
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:21,760
"It was raised, er, should be raised, and there was an instruction not to put any..."

1040
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:23,760
"It's time to feed the pony, lads."

1041
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:25,760
"The jig is up."

1042
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:27,760
"The pony's in the shed."

1043
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:29,760
"And it needs to be fed."

1044
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:31,760
"No, I don't think I'm going to blame on that."

1045
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:33,760
"I mean, did you..."

1046
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,760
"I presume you'd agree that there was no consultancy fees."

1047
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:40,760
"That there was no consultancy done for 75,000 for yourself."

1048
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:41,760
"What?"

1049
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:42,760
"No, we didn't."

1050
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:43,760
"What?"

1051
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:48,760
"Act on, at all times, instructions from RTE."

1052
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:53,760
"And as I've said, RTE is a hundred year old organisation with..."

1053
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:58,760
"Your time, and your pony, is up."

1054
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,760
"It's time to give up the pony, Kelly."

1055
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:05,760
"You're a businessman, you're a negotiator, you look after your clients."

1056
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:06,760
"Is that your job?"

1057
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:07,760
"That's your job."

1058
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:09,760
"There's no issue with that whatsoever."

1059
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:14,760
"But you'd imagine when you were instructed not to put names on the invoices."

1060
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:19,760
"And we're not talking about 2.99 or 3.50, 3.50 cents."

1061
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:21,760
"We're talking about invoices for 75,000."

1062
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:27,760
"And you knowing that you had asked them to underwrite the agreement."

1063
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:32,760
"So, you had asked them that they underwrite, they confirmed that they were underwriting the agreement."

1064
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:34,760
"They were putting it through the barter account."

1065
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:36,760
"You were told not to put a name on it."

1066
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:38,760
"You knew exactly what it was for."

1067
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:40,760
"And you didn't flag that up."

1068
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:41,760
"I don't know why you're so upset with me."

1069
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:43,760
"And yet you say there was nothing secret about the deal."

1070
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:44,760
"There was nothing secret about the deal."

1071
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:48,760
"There was nothing secret. We simply acted under instructions from RTA."

1072
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,760
"Yeah, yeah. But you knew they were underwriting the deal."

1073
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:56,760
"And you knew that was the 75,000 payment that was due to Mr. Tuberty."

1074
00:37:56,760 --> 00:38:01,760
"We simply acted under instructions from RTA."

1075
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:02,760
"That's, yeah, fair enough."

1076
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:04,760
"Crazy bit of business."

1077
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:06,760
"That was pony money."

1078
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:10,760
"We're talking absolute 350,000 euros worth of pony."

1079
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,760
"And that at some point you were informed."

1080
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,760
"Telling you, Tam, they might have made a fucking balance out of us."

1081
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,760
"But they'll never make a fucking pony out of me."

1082
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:21,760
"Who and when?"

1083
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:22,760
"That was me."

1084
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:29,760
"I'm not sure I understand what you mean, but they're taking the piece, the pony and the biscuit, these boys."

1085
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:33,760
"And that would have been from OTE's legal office."

1086
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:38,760
"Their legal office, which would have been who exactly?"

1087
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,760
"From somebody from OTE's legal office."

1088
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:42,760
"Sorry?"

1089
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:43,760
"Pffft."

1090
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:44,760
"26."

1091
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:45,760
"Haha."

1092
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:46,760
"26."

1093
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:47,760
"Yeah."

1094
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:48,760
"Oooh."

1095
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,760
"26 of May."

1096
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:56,760
"Heavy, heavy shuffling of papers."

1097
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:57,760
"Heavy shuffling."

1098
00:38:57,760 --> 00:38:58,760
"Thank you."

1099
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,760
"Embarrassing. This is very, very embarrassing for these guys."

1100
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:02,760
"And that was the 26th of May 2023."

1101
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:14,760
"Okay. And so, RTE knew, Grant Thornton knew, you knew, did you tell your client about it?"

1102
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:16,500
yes we would have

1103
00:39:16,500 --> 00:39:18,740
informed our client of course but that was the first

1104
00:39:18,740 --> 00:39:20,200
that we had heard

1105
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,380
that was the 26th of May

1106
00:39:22,380 --> 00:39:24,740
I just want to come to

1107
00:39:24,740 --> 00:39:26,880
Mr Tuberty if I can please

1108
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:28,320
and there's just

1109
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:30,360
in 2019

1110
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:32,620
you might have seen this out in the public domain

1111
00:39:32,620 --> 00:39:34,760
recently that you were launching the

1112
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:35,720
St Vincent de Paul

1113
00:39:35,720 --> 00:39:38,760
Christmas appeal and when

1114
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:40,700
you were interviewed you were said that you were haunted

1115
00:39:40,700 --> 00:39:42,720
St Vincent de Pony more like

1116
00:39:42,720 --> 00:39:44,640
with the pony money

1117
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:45,280
they were making

1118
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:48,000
pony up the dough lads

1119
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,660
or to ease cost cutting measures gracefully and when it

1120
00:39:50,660 --> 00:39:52,700
comes to this sort of issue that's not something

1121
00:39:52,700 --> 00:39:54,760
you've ever been found wanting

1122
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:56,180
on but

1123
00:39:56,180 --> 00:39:59,360
these boys won't be found wanting alright

1124
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:01,540
there'll be no want from these boys

1125
00:40:01,540 --> 00:40:04,240
not after the fucking pony money that was shuffled

1126
00:40:04,240 --> 00:40:05,080
into the shed

1127
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:07,580
I wouldn't characterise that as a

1128
00:40:07,580 --> 00:40:09,580
pay cut being subsidised by any deal

1129
00:40:09,580 --> 00:40:10,280
I also

1130
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:13,560
with respect

1131
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:15,560
with respect to Deputy I would also

1132
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:18,280
urge you not to conflate

1133
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:21,160
somebody being well paid with somebody

1134
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:22,800
who might not have a conscience

1135
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,940
particularly with work that you know that you mentioned

1136
00:40:25,940 --> 00:40:27,520
St Vincent de Paul it's a charity I have

1137
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:29,420
enormous time for since I was a child

1138
00:40:29,420 --> 00:40:31,700
In fairness, I'm sure... Sorry, just one second.

1139
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:35,220
But please, but please, but please, Minister.

1140
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:37,580
Sorry, Minister. Sorry, Minister.

1141
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:39,800
Sorry, Minister. Minister.

1142
00:40:40,780 --> 00:40:43,580
Sorry, Minister. Minister, I have a pony.

1143
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:47,700
I have a pony. I have a pony. I have a pony.

1144
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:49,660
I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

1145
00:40:50,860 --> 00:40:52,420
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

1146
00:40:52,980 --> 00:40:54,580
Sorry, Deputy. I appreciate that.

1147
00:40:54,580 --> 00:40:57,280
Deputy, Deputy, I have a Renault pony.

1148
00:40:58,160 --> 00:40:59,640
Renault gave me a pony.

1149
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:00,640
OK?

1150
00:41:00,780 --> 00:41:03,960
You knew that this separate deal was being done

1151
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:06,420
and it would compensate for the pay cuts,

1152
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:08,340
but you also knew, and this is the thing,

1153
00:41:08,740 --> 00:41:14,760
that your agent had requested that RTE underwrite that agreement.

1154
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:17,500
So you knew... Sorry, I'll just get to the question.

1155
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:22,460
So you knew that that pay deal was going to make softer

1156
00:41:22,460 --> 00:41:25,980
or not even enhance any pay cut that had been taken,

1157
00:41:26,380 --> 00:41:26,900
but you also knew...

1158
00:41:26,900 --> 00:41:29,060
got some messages coming through there.

1159
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:32,160
Tubbs is trying to bully the situation

1160
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:35,240
and then realise how bad it looks.

1161
00:41:35,240 --> 00:41:35,360
Stopped.

1162
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:38,360
This was a separate contract...

1163
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:39,880
No, I'm not talking about the Renault.

1164
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:40,620
I'm talking about...

1165
00:41:40,620 --> 00:41:41,660
No, Kelly's coming in.

1166
00:41:41,660 --> 00:41:42,680
For separate services.

1167
00:41:43,340 --> 00:41:44,440
Kelly's coming in hot.

1168
00:41:44,540 --> 00:41:45,540
Kelly's coming in hot.

1169
00:41:45,580 --> 00:41:46,600
Mr Kelly, don't you have to brief this?

1170
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:49,300
This was a separate contract for separate services.

1171
00:41:49,420 --> 00:41:53,000
This had nothing to do with Ryan's new contract for radio and TV service.

1172
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:54,240
This was a separate contract.

1173
00:41:54,580 --> 00:41:55,800
That's what I'm talking about.

1174
00:41:56,300 --> 00:41:57,840
The tripartite deal...

1175
00:41:58,840 --> 00:41:58,900
Yeah.

1176
00:41:59,280 --> 00:41:59,840
Where the two...

1177
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:01,800
With RTE and Renault were sponsored.

1178
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,740
Yeah, where RTE had underwritten that agreement.

1179
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:05,440
Minister.

1180
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:06,700
And they were paying it.

1181
00:42:07,240 --> 00:42:08,720
And my question to Mr Tuberty was...

1182
00:42:08,720 --> 00:42:09,640
No, Renault were paying it.

1183
00:42:09,720 --> 00:42:09,960
Sorry?

1184
00:42:10,140 --> 00:42:10,840
Renault were paying it.

1185
00:42:11,020 --> 00:42:12,700
Renault, but RTE paid them.

1186
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:13,840
And then the two 75 payments...

1187
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:18,080
But if RTE paid them, that was an RTE thing.

1188
00:42:18,460 --> 00:42:19,480
Renault paid...

1189
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:20,120
Renault paid.

1190
00:42:20,540 --> 00:42:21,060
Yeah, but RTE...

1191
00:42:21,060 --> 00:42:22,760
And if RTE paid them, that was...

1192
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:22,760
That was...

1193
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:23,860
Yeah, that's fine.

1194
00:42:23,860 --> 00:42:24,540
That was...

1195
00:42:24,540 --> 00:42:25,260
We don't work for...

1196
00:42:25,260 --> 00:42:26,200
I don't work for RTE.

1197
00:42:26,460 --> 00:42:26,860
No, that's fine.

1198
00:42:26,860 --> 00:42:27,400
We don't work for RTE.

1199
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:29,420
So, I know you're trying to clarify.

1200
00:42:29,660 --> 00:42:29,980
Absolutely.

1201
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:32,100
I'm talking about the two...

1202
00:42:32,100 --> 00:42:34,180
We've just discussed it to you.

1203
00:42:34,260 --> 00:42:35,520
There's no way you don't know about it.

1204
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:38,420
The two 75,000 euro payments...

1205
00:42:38,420 --> 00:42:38,960
You are a liar.

1206
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:40,280
...that were put to...

1207
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:42,900
...that you were asked not to put a name on.

1208
00:42:42,900 --> 00:42:44,240
Don't upset with me all at mine.

1209
00:42:44,240 --> 00:42:45,020
Not to put any person's name on.

1210
00:42:45,220 --> 00:42:45,800
Again, again, again.

1211
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:47,960
They were underwritten, as you said, at your request.

1212
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:49,500
The question is, should the question be indirectly to Mr Tuberty?

1213
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:50,580
Mr Tuberty, yes.

1214
00:42:50,580 --> 00:42:51,680
Mr Kelly, please don't interrupt.

1215
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:53,040
The situation is...

1216
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:54,020
I think that the reason...

1217
00:42:54,020 --> 00:42:55,000
Sorry, Deputy, to clarify.

1218
00:42:55,140 --> 00:43:00,600
The reason Noel is coming in on this is because his knowledge of the nuts and bolts of these things is...

1219
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:01,500
Knowledge of the nuts?

1220
00:43:01,500 --> 00:43:04,980
So, I'm not being disreflected to you by not answering some of my money.

1221
00:43:04,980 --> 00:43:08,900
And likewise, but I'm asking you again in relation to that.

1222
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:10,800
When, you know, and...

1223
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:11,460
You heard it here.

1224
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:13,240
His knowledge of the nuts.

1225
00:43:14,020 --> 00:43:15,820
Protector of the Badgers, thank you very much.

1226
00:43:15,980 --> 00:43:17,880
Renault Safran V6.

1227
00:43:18,180 --> 00:43:20,240
KPMG Stealth Sniper, thank you very much.

1228
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:21,760
And I'm not really taking your meds.

1229
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:29,400
...that tally with the fact that you knew that the two payments that were going through for 75,000,

1230
00:43:29,500 --> 00:43:31,640
the tripart agreement was struck, right?

1231
00:43:31,720 --> 00:43:31,880
Yes.

1232
00:43:32,260 --> 00:43:34,420
You knew that they were...

1233
00:43:34,420 --> 00:43:36,900
Apparently Noel Kelly has nut knowledge.

1234
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:38,560
This is hot off the press.

1235
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:40,900
From Ryan Tuberty, you heard it there.

1236
00:43:41,580 --> 00:43:43,360
His knowledge of it was of nuts.

1237
00:43:44,240 --> 00:43:45,380
Pure nut knowledge.

1238
00:43:45,460 --> 00:43:46,900
It was the licence fee holders that were paying...

1239
00:43:46,900 --> 00:43:50,340
Ivan saying he's saying he knows nothing.

1240
00:43:50,340 --> 00:43:54,000
There was a relationship with Renault that would sort that out.

1241
00:43:54,580 --> 00:43:56,540
No, the second and third one we're talking about.

1242
00:43:56,980 --> 00:43:57,620
I mean...

1243
00:43:57,620 --> 00:43:57,820
Yeah.

1244
00:43:58,240 --> 00:43:59,360
But am I not right in saying that?

1245
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:00,320
With all respect, don't...

1246
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:01,660
There seems to be a misunderstanding.

1247
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:03,000
No, no, there's no absolute...

1248
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,600
We've sat through three weeks of it, in all fairness, Mr. Tucker.

1249
00:44:05,660 --> 00:44:06,740
No, I appreciate that.

1250
00:44:06,740 --> 00:44:07,540
There's no misunderstanding from our...

1251
00:44:07,540 --> 00:44:08,740
Well, I'm misunderstanding, obviously.

1252
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:09,320
I apologise.

1253
00:44:09,540 --> 00:44:11,960
I'm talking about the 275...

1254
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:14,920
Look, if you prefer not to answer, that's fine.

1255
00:44:15,060 --> 00:44:16,380
If you don't want to answer...

1256
00:44:16,380 --> 00:44:17,620
No, I'm happy to answer.

1257
00:44:17,780 --> 00:44:20,840
I just feel that I was always under the impression

1258
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:22,760
that that money was from Renault, wasn't it?

1259
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:23,280
From Renault, yes.

1260
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:25,300
You've received 340...

1261
00:44:25,300 --> 00:44:27,820
Drive the new Renault tripartite,

1262
00:44:27,940 --> 00:44:30,900
starting at 75,000 euro.

1263
00:44:32,580 --> 00:44:35,060
Drive the new Renault tripartite tonight.

1264
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:36,500
I really dispute that.

1265
00:44:36,500 --> 00:44:38,340
OK, so we're going to move on...

1266
00:44:38,340 --> 00:44:42,840
Keep it moving, baby.

1267
00:44:43,020 --> 00:44:44,520
Keep it moving tonight.

1268
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:48,800
And thank you to the witnesses for attending.

1269
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:51,440
I believe he was awful close there to saying

1270
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:52,400
that money was just...

1271
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:52,920
I knew nothing.

1272
00:44:53,020 --> 00:44:54,160
That money was just resting.

1273
00:44:54,300 --> 00:44:56,060
It sounded like it was going down that road.

1274
00:44:56,420 --> 00:44:59,180
Thanks very much to Renault tripartite there for the tip.

1275
00:44:59,940 --> 00:45:01,220
We've got a situation, a-brewing.

1276
00:45:01,260 --> 00:45:01,780
Who's this guy?

1277
00:45:01,940 --> 00:45:03,740
Everything else that's open to us,

1278
00:45:03,740 --> 00:45:06,800
from Spotify to podcasts to everything else.

1279
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:07,160
Spotify.

1280
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:11,540
We're like most people who are big radio listeners in our house.

1281
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:13,900
You were in our kitchen five mornings a week.

1282
00:45:14,340 --> 00:45:14,740
What?

1283
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:18,280
Big, big shock revelations here.

1284
00:45:18,780 --> 00:45:22,340
Ryan Tuberty was in this man's kitchen five nights a week.

1285
00:45:22,420 --> 00:45:23,660
Five mornings a night.

1286
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:25,360
Bilbo Nagin, thanks for the tip.

1287
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:27,760
During COVID in particular and during the recessions.

1288
00:45:28,900 --> 00:45:29,780
We believed you.

1289
00:45:31,380 --> 00:45:35,120
And I think that's why we feel so shattered by this story.

1290
00:45:35,260 --> 00:45:37,760
Now, you've set out a very strong rebuttal here.

1291
00:45:38,460 --> 00:45:42,940
It's clear that RTE, when they appear before us again on Thursday,

1292
00:45:43,020 --> 00:45:46,340
are going to have a very serious set of questions that they have to answer.

1293
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:54,500
But the fact remains, public trust in our public broadcaster and in you, for right or for wrong, has been shattered.

1294
00:45:55,260 --> 00:45:57,820
And that has to be rebuilt.

1295
00:45:58,420 --> 00:46:00,640
And maybe today is the start and we'll see.

1296
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:02,560
I wanted to ask you just...

1297
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:04,560
We must rebuild.

1298
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:50,400
In the murky, in the murky world of media, where public influence converges with private interests, a troubling tale unfolds. Enter the enigmatic figure of a TV personality, whose role as a public broadcaster should embody the principles of impartiality and integrity.

1299
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:10,640
The truth about the influence of private money on those who are meant to serve the public. In this intrepid dance of power and profit, the lines between the public and private realms blur.

1300
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:22,640
A TV personality, entrusted with the responsibility of informing and educating the masses, succumbs to the allure of financial gain from private businesses.

1301
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:34,640
What was once a bastion of independent thought and critical discourse, now finds itself entangled in a dangerous liaison with the very forces it should be scrutinizing.

1302
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:42,640
Is that inclusive or exclusive of the 75,000 euro that you are receiving, either from Renault or...

1303
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:46,640
Thanks very much there to... Sorry, the mic is coming in hot there. Thanks to...

1304
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:53,640
To Bilbo Nagins for writing that and sending that to me there just a minute ago. Thank you very much.

1305
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:57,640
There's still more... There's still more of it. We can dip back into it in a minute.

1306
00:47:57,640 --> 00:47:59,640
That was...

1307
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:02,640
That's 20% refers to the payment direct from Ortea.

1308
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:08,640
Frankie Scolins, thank you very much. Oroctis Arrangements, thank you very much. CV and Kiki Stockhammer.

1309
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:12,640
Can we confirm that Conor Williams is in the Noel Kelly flock?

1310
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:17,640
Word on the street is he was taking huge bungs for positive TikToks.

1311
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:22,640
I can neither confirm nor deny. He did start this beginning of this stream.

1312
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:24,640
He gave me this t-shirt actually.

1313
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:28,640
He did get the stream up and running. I don't know what he was doing in my house.

1314
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:35,640
It was a strange scene. It was probably not unlike the scene of Ryan Toberty in that man's kitchen five mornings a night.

1315
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:40,640
I just have to contest that we regard this as separate.

1316
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:47,640
Now, the email over and back that we see in the contract negotiations are shocking to, I think, all of the members for a number of reasons.

1317
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:50,640
One being the number of people who are actually included in the EU.

1318
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:53,640
I think we might actually have Conor there. Conor, are you there, Conor?

1319
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:57,640
It also wants to add clearly to the fact that actually it's not separate. It is part of the Ortea contracting.

1320
00:48:57,640 --> 00:48:58,640
No, no, no, it's not part of the contracting.

1321
00:48:58,640 --> 00:48:59,640
Conor.

1322
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:02,640
I mean, if it was entirely separate, then why would Ortea...

1323
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:03,640
That's a good guy.

1324
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:05,640
Conor Williams here.

1325
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:07,640
...is not that Ortea came to us with this?

1326
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:08,640
Like, at all times...

1327
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:11,640
Watching the pack, two packs, Shakur.

1328
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:15,640
So far, so tasty.

1329
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:43,640
I just want to say, Renault have nothing to do with any wrongdoing whatsoever. Great company, great cars, and I know a lot of good solid people from Renault are out Dublin as well. I think Bill Cullen introduced me, first introduced me to the Renault sphere back in 2009. And just unbelievable world of car manufacturing and car salesmanship there as well.

1330
00:49:43,640 --> 00:50:09,640
You're part in this. I want to ask for Kelly, no Kelly, knows what he's doing. No Kelly. And he is a great, great poniesmith and ponyshire. We know that the two problematic invoices were presented to Dee Forbes on the 8th of March. Renault knew nothing. Whenever he took his decision, he announced it on the 16th of March. Would you have Dee Forbes?

1331
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:15,640
Thank you very much, Conor. Hopefully, you're getting on well and we will see you soon at some stage.

1332
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:25,640
...and this is like, it's, it's, there's so many untruths and so many stuff. I'm finding it was our stuff. I've only ever met Dee Forbes with her legal team and her lawyers...

1333
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:29,640
Said there's so many untruths and so many stuff, he just said.

1334
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:35,640
But Dee Forbes, I've never met Dee Forbes for lunch. I've never met her for dinner. I don't know Dee Forbes apart from when I meet her in the...

1335
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:45,640
I'm so sorry and it's, we're so time compressed here. Deputy, I think if you, if you have a question with regard to the departure of the Late Late Show, that was so deeply personal and so deeply from my heart.

1336
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:55,640
I would urge you to ask me about that because... I want to ask a very simple question and it sounds like you welcomed the opportunity. Was there any communication to either yourself, Mr. Tobey or to...

1337
00:50:55,640 --> 00:51:05,640
So many stuff. Cheekiest pony or chunkiest pony. Thank you very much, Conrad. Thank you very much, Erectus Committee and Frankie Scones. I hope you're getting on well there.

1338
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:08,640
The first indication was on the 23rd of May.

1339
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:14,640
Well, now I do want to contest that because on the 3rd of May, there is an over and back, a 3rd and the 5th of May...

1340
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:16,640
Sorry, sorry. Between Paul and Maloney and...

1341
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:18,640
...and... Sorry.

1342
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:24,640
...NK Management, where specific references made to the CMS invoices.

1343
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:25,640
Yes, yes, sorry.

1344
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:27,640
And I do want to ask about the decision to you, CMS. Thank you.

1345
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:31,640
So, I do want to contest that because there is certainly an over and back between...

1346
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:33,640
Sorry, on the 3rd of May...

1347
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:34,640
...and Paul and Maloney.

1348
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:35,640
...and Paul and Maloney.

1349
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:36,640
...because there's just a lot of emails.

1350
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:41,640
On the 3rd of May, erm, was the first time that we were made aware of it.

1351
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:44,640
And then after that, we met with Grant Thornton to talk to them about it.

1352
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:45,640
Okay.

1353
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:52,640
So, in relation to Ryan stepping down or stepping back, Ryan had said it to me the previous year, and I was...

1354
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:54,640
I said to him, "Why? Why are you leaving?"

1355
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:55,640
Yeah.

1356
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:56,640
And he just said...

1357
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:57,640
So did the family. They thought I was mad.

1358
00:51:57,640 --> 00:51:58,640
Yeah.

1359
00:51:58,640 --> 00:51:59,640
Yeah.

1360
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:00,640
And to be honest with you...

1361
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:02,640
A very good friend of ours, Ryan...

1362
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:06,640
I said, "Ryan, why are you leaving? Stay in the lake, it's a brilliant... it's a great show."

1363
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:08,640
Is it, Buck?

1364
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:16,640
I knew after Covid, when you're playing to no audience, when you're... that it was a really difficult show to do.

1365
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:20,640
Mr Kelly, I'm so sorry to interrupt you. I don't want to come across this...

1366
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:24,640
But I have two minutes remaining and a list of questions as long as we are.

1367
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:29,640
Anyway, we've been aware of this for quite a while, and I was trying to get him to stay.

1368
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:41,640
Okay. I want to ask you about this... so this invoicing of Astus. And I do notice in the accounts that are returned at the end of the year that money transferred to total productions is...

1369
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:43,640
You have heard your mother.

1370
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:45,640
You can see it, essentially.

1371
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:55,640
In a normal run of a year, the amount of money derived from Noel Kelly management is quite small. In the years in question, it's large. You can see the 75,000 units.

1372
00:52:55,640 --> 00:53:06,640
You have, I think, four companies that which are registered out of unit B2 in the Calment Office Park and Balliament. So Noel Kelly management, Noel Kellage management nominees...

1373
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:12,640
Noel Kellage is after you. Loeb, thank you very much. And Fortnite Imperium, thank you.

1374
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:15,640
How was it CMS that decided to raise the invoice?

1375
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:21,640
Because I have two companies, which is NK management and CMS, and we were asked to send the invoice in...

1376
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:27,640
Kellage... Kellage... Kellage Cornflakes is after you.

1377
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:32,640
Well, it's... They would... They would... It's Noel Kelly management that appears at the end of the year.

1378
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:37,640
Sure, sure. But CMS is... We own CMS as well. It's a sister company.

1379
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:39,640
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.

1380
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:44,640
Tony Aldante says Noel Kellage, the nut fellage.

1381
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:47,640
Sure, sure, sure. Noel Kellage...

1382
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:50,640
Noel Kellage... Skellage Michael.

1383
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:53,640
Again, we were directed by RTE.

1384
00:53:53,640 --> 00:54:00,640
With this direction from RTE, we've all received emails in saying, you know, just...

1385
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:02,640
Look at this lad, look.

1386
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:06,640
...all you have to do is invoice a certain company in wherever and all of this money will be yours.

1387
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:08,640
This idea of...

1388
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:11,640
Captain Sack, thank you very much. Mamma Duck, Loeb, thank you very much.

1389
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:14,640
There's a way, boys!

1390
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:21,640
Um... You've no reason to suspect RTE are hiding payments, but they said, can you...

1391
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:28,640
Crazy bit of business. Crazy bit of payment hiding going on, maybe. Possibly. Maybe. We don't know yet, but no...

1392
00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:35,640
We've just heard a bombshell revelation that Noel Kellage's name is actually Noel Kellage.

1393
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:36,640
It has its...

1394
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:37,640
Leng.

1395
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:38,640
1,800 employees.

1396
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:39,640
Free State Hall, thank you very much.

1397
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:42,640
Captain Sack and Leng, thank you very much.

1398
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:44,640
I mean, the context of this is...

1399
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:47,640
Sorry, you have been upset with the reporting of earnings beforehand.

1400
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:51,640
We were asked, we were asked under instruction to do this and that's what we did.

1401
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:57,640
We're hearing about payments. We're hearing about payments wrapped inside payments.

1402
00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:00,640
That were posted inside a package.

1403
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:04,640
That were delivered to us, wrapped inside a puzzle payment.

1404
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:06,640
They were delivered in a Renault Clio.

1405
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:08,640
That was owned, that wasn't our Renault.

1406
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:10,640
That was owned by OnPost.

1407
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:15,640
OnPost came over, they had the Renault, but inside that there was a secret payment.

1408
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:17,640
Now, that payment was not discussed.

1409
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:19,640
It was agreed on.

1410
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:22,640
It was definitely taken for granted.

1411
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:27,640
What we do know, and what we can say, and what we're willing to tell you,

1412
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:31,640
is that it's a well-paid bit of business.

1413
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:36,640
My colleague there, Century Merchandising Services Limited is...

1414
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:37,640
Chinese whispers.

1415
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:43,640
No, no, but when I've done my company office searches, I found all the CMS companies have been struck off,

1416
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:50,640
so I'm a bit concerned about you using that when the company's office showed that all the CMS companies have been struck off the register.

1417
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:56,640
So it's trading under Century Merchandising Services Limited, not CMS.

1418
00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:57,640
Mm-hmm. Okay.

1419
00:55:57,640 --> 00:55:59,640
CMS is just the...

1420
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:05,640
I know, but it's just from the clarification point of view that CMS, all the companies that are registered under that name,

1421
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:09,640
have been struck off for various reasons. Can I just ask a question in relation to the...

1422
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:11,640
Barter accounts.

1423
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:12,640
Between RTE...

1424
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:13,640
Barter.

1425
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:15,640
Barter.

1426
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:16,640
Barter.

1427
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:17,640
That's the agreement.

1428
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:18,640
That's the agreement.

1429
00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:19,640
Barter.

1430
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:20,640
Yes.

1431
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:22,640
But the agreement then between...

1432
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:23,640
Which is...

1433
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:24,640
Barter.

1434
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:25,640
Is between...

1435
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:26,640
Barter.

1436
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:27,640
Barter.

1437
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:29,640
RTE and Ryan Chugger.

1438
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:29,640
The new Renault barter.

1439
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:30,640
Starting at €75,000.

1440
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:31,640
So the Renault contracts...

1441
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:32,640
So page five...

1442
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:33,640
I have a copy of the agreement here...

1443
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:34,640
Sure.

1444
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:35,640
And it shows...

1445
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:35,640
This is the agreement that was...

1446
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:36,640
That was prepared in relation to...

1447
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:37,640
Barter notes.

1448
00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:38,640
Inside the pocket.

1449
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:39,640
Barter notes.

1450
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:40,640
Yes.

1451
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:41,640
Barter notes.

1452
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:42,640
Yes.

1453
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:43,640
It's not with total productions.

1454
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:45,640
So the agreement was written by RTE Legal.

1455
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:47,640
No, no, this is the one that I've got.

1456
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:48,640
I've got...

1457
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:49,640
I've got a copy of the agreement.

1458
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:50,640
I've got a copy of the agreement.

1459
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:51,640
I've got a copy of the agreement.

1460
00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:52,640
I've got a copy of the agreement here.

1461
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:53,640
I've got a copy of the agreement here.

1462
00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:54,640
I've got a copy of the agreement here.

1463
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:55,640
I've got a copy of the agreement here.

1464
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:56,640
And it shows...

1465
00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:57,640
This is the agreement that was prepared in relation to...

1466
00:56:57,640 --> 00:56:58,640
Barter notes.

1467
00:56:58,640 --> 00:56:59,640
Inside the pocket.

1468
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:00,640
Barter notes.

1469
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:02,060
from BioT Legal.

1470
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:04,400
No, no, this is the one that I've got,

1471
00:57:04,660 --> 00:57:06,620
which is in... Oh, sorry, for the

1472
00:57:06,620 --> 00:57:08,620
services. Did you see the cheeky

1473
00:57:08,620 --> 00:57:10,500
bit of fucking... There was a note put

1474
00:57:10,500 --> 00:57:12,860
inside the dugout

1475
00:57:12,860 --> 00:57:13,180
there.

1476
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:16,780
Calvert, thank you

1477
00:57:16,780 --> 00:57:18,660
very much. Laleh luleh lo. And by

1478
00:57:18,660 --> 00:57:20,300
Pat, thank you very much.

1479
00:57:20,460 --> 00:57:22,140
A rogue payment just flew

1480
00:57:22,140 --> 00:57:23,800
into a man's pocket

1481
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:26,540
at pace, and we all seen it.

1482
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:28,300
That wasn't a note.

1483
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:30,120
That was a fucking IOU

1484
00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:30,840
investment.

1485
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:34,360
That was a Renault fucking

1486
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:35,000
payslip.

1487
00:57:36,220 --> 00:57:38,380
Sure, well, Ryan Trubbley

1488
00:57:38,380 --> 00:57:39,320
being total.

1489
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:41,980
Okay, but can I just ask then, in relation to

1490
00:57:41,980 --> 00:57:44,200
75,000, does that go into

1491
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:46,500
the total production account?

1492
00:57:46,740 --> 00:57:48,500
Yes. Okay, because the invoice

1493
00:57:48,500 --> 00:57:50,180
then, when you... The invoice that was

1494
00:57:50,180 --> 00:57:52,280
produced...

1495
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:53,080
These lads!

1496
00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:57,860
The invoice doesn't mention total

1497
00:57:57,860 --> 00:57:59,540
productions in the invoice that you

1498
00:57:59,540 --> 00:58:01,920
produced... Oh, panic!

1499
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:03,940
It doesn't mention total... Look at this,

1500
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:05,940
lads. Panic setting in. They've got their

1501
00:58:05,940 --> 00:58:07,740
fucking facts and figures wrong. They're looking

1502
00:58:07,740 --> 00:58:09,800
for numbers. They're scrambling around.

1503
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:11,280
Their papers are being shuffled.

1504
00:58:11,700 --> 00:58:13,680
So, we were directed again

1505
00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:16,040
by RTA, RT Legal, to put down...

1506
00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:17,500
Ryan Trubbley, we spoke partnership between

1507
00:58:17,500 --> 00:58:19,080
Renault and... But on a second, but if the...

1508
00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:21,200
included personal... Sorry, but if the agreement...

1509
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:23,040
...and program of activity. But if the agreement is

1510
00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:24,280
ongoing with

1511
00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:27,120
Total Productions, why then send

1512
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:28,940
out the invoice in a... Renault,

1513
00:58:29,020 --> 00:58:31,240
thank you very much. ...person's name rather than...

1514
00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:32,740
The agreement

1515
00:58:32,740 --> 00:58:35,240
is with Renault

1516
00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:36,200
or T.E.

1517
00:58:36,900 --> 00:58:39,020
The invoicing... And obviously

1518
00:58:39,020 --> 00:58:41,060
Ryan is the... Where's he going? Where's that

1519
00:58:41,060 --> 00:58:42,980
going then? We invoice on behalf of Ryan

1520
00:58:42,980 --> 00:58:44,620
and then... I know, but

1521
00:58:44,620 --> 00:58:47,040
from a legal point of view, what I'm saying to you is

1522
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:49,200
that there seems to be two different legal

1523
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:51,060
entities. One Total Productions,

1524
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:52,660
the other one... Fuckin' mine!

1525
00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:55,480
No, there's... But D.E. Rimmons show that.

1526
00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:57,360
So, no, that's the Renault and the

1527
00:58:57,360 --> 00:58:59,560
Ryan W invoice. There's only Total Productions

1528
00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:01,300
which is Ryan... What's the story with this

1529
00:59:01,300 --> 00:59:02,560
fuckin' Total? Who's Total?

1530
00:59:03,020 --> 00:59:04,720
Total this, Total that,

1531
00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:07,160
Totalbutt, Scuttlebutt,

1532
00:59:07,700 --> 00:59:08,620
Total Productions.

1533
00:59:08,620 --> 00:59:10,540
...to an English company,

1534
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:12,440
a company based in the UK.

1535
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:15,160
Did you not raise... Waps in the grass!

1536
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:15,900
Thank you very much.

1537
00:59:15,900 --> 00:59:19,640
Because, obviously, if it's made out to a UK company,

1538
00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:24,200
you're then not putting in for VAT or anything else,

1539
00:59:24,780 --> 00:59:26,580
yet the service was delivered in Ireland.

1540
00:59:27,580 --> 00:59:30,360
We, again, under instruction from RTE,

1541
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:31,440
we...

1542
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:33,200
What do you mean? In fairness,

1543
00:59:33,460 --> 00:59:35,800
you're a separate legal entity to RTE.

1544
00:59:36,140 --> 00:59:40,040
Could you not have asked further questions on that?

1545
00:59:40,380 --> 00:59:42,600
We sent the invoices into RTE.

1546
00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:43,900
What's that noise there? Did you hear that?

1547
00:59:44,700 --> 00:59:47,260
Yeah, but when he were asked to send in the invoices,

1548
00:59:47,420 --> 00:59:48,980
he were asked to make out the invoices.

1549
00:59:49,940 --> 00:59:51,120
When, you know,

1550
00:59:51,180 --> 00:59:53,300
you were asked to make them out for a UK company,

1551
00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:55,060
did it not raise concerns,

1552
00:59:55,060 --> 00:59:56,340
from your point of view, as regards,

1553
00:59:56,840 --> 00:59:58,860
you know, to make sure that she were not

1554
00:59:58,860 --> 01:00:00,720
doing anything which was,

1555
01:00:01,140 --> 01:00:03,000
you know, where the service,

1556
01:00:03,060 --> 01:00:04,700
in particular where the service was delivered

1557
01:00:04,700 --> 01:00:05,260
here in Ireland,

1558
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:07,320
the service wasn't delivered in the UK.

1559
01:00:07,720 --> 01:00:07,960
Sure.

1560
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:10,260
It was delivered to RTE, to Renault.

1561
01:00:10,500 --> 01:00:11,620
Renault for Sam.

1562
01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:12,340
Thank you very much.

1563
01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:13,600
A dog and pony show.

1564
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:14,880
Who says,

1565
01:00:14,980 --> 01:00:17,020
with the €345,000,

1566
01:00:17,620 --> 01:00:19,540
I run a tripart agreement.

1567
01:00:19,540 --> 01:00:21,720
I have agreements in Renault,

1568
01:00:21,820 --> 01:00:22,780
in RTE,

1569
01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:24,540
and in Total Productions.

1570
01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:25,680
And let me tell you something.

1571
01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:27,100
Try it sometime.

1572
01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:29,040
You're going completely off the question,

1573
01:00:29,180 --> 01:00:29,260
David.

1574
01:00:29,700 --> 01:00:30,300
And look at this.

1575
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:33,160
David, you just put that question straight at the end,

1576
01:00:33,260 --> 01:00:34,320
because it's a very direct question.

1577
01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:36,020
The direct question is,

1578
01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:36,380
you know,

1579
01:00:36,500 --> 01:00:38,140
when the invoice was made out,

1580
01:00:38,220 --> 01:00:40,100
it was made out to a UK company.

1581
01:00:40,540 --> 01:00:41,580
What I'm saying is that,

1582
01:00:41,780 --> 01:00:43,340
the service was delivered in Ireland,

1583
01:00:43,700 --> 01:00:45,640
for Irish companies,

1584
01:00:45,740 --> 01:00:46,980
basically RTE and Renault,

1585
01:00:47,060 --> 01:00:47,960
here in Ireland.

1586
01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:50,560
Did that not raise concerns,

1587
01:00:50,980 --> 01:00:51,260
which you,

1588
01:00:51,380 --> 01:00:52,740
from an accounting point of view,

1589
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:53,300
yourselves,

1590
01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:55,140
that you were being asked now,

1591
01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:56,980
to bill a UK company?

1592
01:00:57,480 --> 01:00:58,380
You say in your statement,

1593
01:00:58,520 --> 01:00:59,240
that she knew nothing,

1594
01:00:59,500 --> 01:01:00,500
about the barter account.

1595
01:01:00,580 --> 01:01:02,140
She never dealt with a barter account before.

1596
01:01:02,500 --> 01:01:03,780
This is the first time dealing with it.

1597
01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:06,480
Did you not raise questions,

1598
01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:07,800
as to why you should make it out,

1599
01:01:07,860 --> 01:01:08,700
to a UK company?

1600
01:01:09,220 --> 01:01:09,360
Okay,

1601
01:01:09,460 --> 01:01:09,620
well,

1602
01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:10,460
if I could just,

1603
01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:11,860
in relation to that.

1604
01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:13,420
Paul Gascoigne,

1605
01:01:13,540 --> 01:01:14,300
thank you very much.

1606
01:01:15,500 --> 01:01:16,380
Was there more reason,

1607
01:01:16,460 --> 01:01:17,400
for raising the question,

1608
01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:18,800
if you didn't know about it?

1609
01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:19,960
but we presumed,

1610
01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:21,380
that they had a relationship with Renault.

1611
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:23,660
And we followed the instructions exactly,

1612
01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:24,760
and subsequently,

1613
01:01:24,900 --> 01:01:26,080
did you raise that question,

1614
01:01:26,220 --> 01:01:26,760
when Renault,

1615
01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:27,200
to know,

1616
01:01:27,660 --> 01:01:29,560
was this the reason why?

1617
01:01:29,940 --> 01:01:31,060
Was this the connection,

1618
01:01:31,540 --> 01:01:32,780
rather than send it in,

1619
01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:33,400
remember,

1620
01:01:33,500 --> 01:01:33,920
to RTE,

1621
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:34,960
we'll give you the instructions,

1622
01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:35,560
not Renault.

1623
01:01:35,900 --> 01:01:36,240
Therefore,

1624
01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:37,980
should you not have raised that question?

1625
01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:39,240
Renault this,

1626
01:01:39,660 --> 01:01:40,740
Renault that.

1627
01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:41,840
We didn't raise the question,

1628
01:01:41,900 --> 01:01:43,580
because it was under instruction from RTE.

1629
01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:45,220
Okay,

1630
01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:46,120
can I just ask,

1631
01:01:46,200 --> 01:01:47,360
in relation to,

1632
01:01:47,460 --> 01:01:47,740
um,

1633
01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:48,660
Paige,

1634
01:01:48,900 --> 01:01:50,980
in the Grand Thornton report,

1635
01:01:51,500 --> 01:01:51,900
um,

1636
01:01:52,300 --> 01:01:52,600
at,

1637
01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:53,340
at paragraph,

1638
01:01:53,660 --> 01:01:53,940
uh,

1639
01:01:53,940 --> 01:01:54,220
two,

1640
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:54,460
two,

1641
01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:54,880
three,

1642
01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:56,200
it raises the fact,

1643
01:01:56,260 --> 01:01:56,500
about,

1644
01:01:56,620 --> 01:01:56,840
that,

1645
01:01:56,840 --> 01:01:57,420
uh,

1646
01:01:57,420 --> 01:01:59,080
the Directorate General was not involved,

1647
01:01:59,180 --> 01:01:59,500
in dealing,

1648
01:01:59,640 --> 01:01:59,820
signing,

1649
01:01:59,920 --> 01:02:01,180
or implementation of this agreement,

1650
01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:03,220
being the tripartite agreement.

1651
01:02:04,340 --> 01:02:05,220
Was there,

1652
01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:06,880
because this seems to be,

1653
01:02:07,100 --> 01:02:07,600
we're being,

1654
01:02:07,860 --> 01:02:09,300
furnished certain names,

1655
01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:10,740
but we're not being given all the names,

1656
01:02:10,780 --> 01:02:11,460
and I'm just wondering,

1657
01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:13,280
who exactly was there,

1658
01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:15,260
that knew about all of this agreement?

1659
01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:18,100
Sorry,

1660
01:02:18,260 --> 01:02:18,580
so,

1661
01:02:19,460 --> 01:02:19,780
okay,

1662
01:02:19,860 --> 01:02:20,800
you were involved there,

1663
01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:21,520
but who,

1664
01:02:22,040 --> 01:02:22,860
from RTE,

1665
01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:24,040
was there,

1666
01:02:24,380 --> 01:02:25,240
that was involved,

1667
01:02:25,380 --> 01:02:26,080
in this agreement?

1668
01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:26,620
So,

1669
01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:27,400
um,

1670
01:02:27,620 --> 01:02:28,140
from legal,

1671
01:02:28,320 --> 01:02:28,800
Trish Whelan,

1672
01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:30,280
from finance,

1673
01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:31,020
Brito Keefe,

1674
01:02:31,540 --> 01:02:31,760
see,

1675
01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:32,280
uh,

1676
01:02:32,360 --> 01:02:33,000
the CEO,

1677
01:02:33,340 --> 01:02:33,660
um,

1678
01:02:33,740 --> 01:02:35,560
and then,

1679
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:36,700
somebody on the exec.

1680
01:02:37,340 --> 01:02:38,540
I'm fucking really annoyed,

1681
01:02:38,600 --> 01:02:39,540
because I can't find,

1682
01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:40,820
I've seen a picture,

1683
01:02:40,940 --> 01:02:41,840
that somebody did,

1684
01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:43,280
and I don't know where to find it,

1685
01:02:43,340 --> 01:02:43,740
but it's,

1686
01:02:43,740 --> 01:02:45,020
the picture of,

1687
01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:45,360
uh,

1688
01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:45,980
Noel Kelly,

1689
01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:47,040
in the pinstripe suit,

1690
01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:47,960
and Ryan Tuberley,

1691
01:02:48,020 --> 01:02:49,500
the one that everyone was looking at there,

1692
01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:50,200
over the past week,

1693
01:02:50,700 --> 01:02:52,200
but someone had photoshopped,

1694
01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:54,000
their heads around,

1695
01:02:54,220 --> 01:02:54,400
so,

1696
01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:54,720
uh,

1697
01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:55,980
Tuberley's face,

1698
01:02:56,060 --> 01:02:56,560
was on,

1699
01:02:56,900 --> 01:02:57,940
Noel Kelly's head,

1700
01:02:58,300 --> 01:02:59,260
and Noel Kelly's face,

1701
01:02:59,300 --> 01:03:00,160
was on Tuberley's head,

1702
01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:01,000
and I,

1703
01:03:01,100 --> 01:03:01,380
I,

1704
01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:03,320
I nearly pissed myself,

1705
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:04,300
this morning,

1706
01:03:04,640 --> 01:03:05,560
looking at it,

1707
01:03:05,660 --> 01:03:06,500
it was the best,

1708
01:03:07,260 --> 01:03:08,800
way of waking up ever,

1709
01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:09,300
you know,

1710
01:03:09,500 --> 01:03:10,920
obviously not pissing yourself,

1711
01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:11,500
but, uh,

1712
01:03:11,560 --> 01:03:11,700
I,

1713
01:03:11,700 --> 01:03:12,740
I laughed and laughed,

1714
01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:13,560
about 15 minutes,

1715
01:03:13,660 --> 01:03:15,060
if anybody can find that,

1716
01:03:15,460 --> 01:03:16,480
because I,

1717
01:03:16,700 --> 01:03:17,880
I gotta hand it to you,

1718
01:03:17,940 --> 01:03:18,860
whoever made that,

1719
01:03:19,020 --> 01:03:20,120
it's hilarious stuff,

1720
01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:21,440
if you can find,

1721
01:03:21,500 --> 01:03:22,960
if anyone knows where to find that,

1722
01:03:23,020 --> 01:03:23,780
and can send it to me,

1723
01:03:23,820 --> 01:03:24,660
because we could put it up,

1724
01:03:24,740 --> 01:03:24,880
and,

1725
01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:25,120
uh,

1726
01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:26,120
you'll all get a good laugh,

1727
01:03:26,120 --> 01:03:26,600
out of that,

1728
01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:28,460
I can't find it now,

1729
01:03:28,900 --> 01:03:30,020
I wish I'd have saved it,

1730
01:03:30,220 --> 01:03:30,540
so,

1731
01:03:30,980 --> 01:03:31,220
and,

1732
01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:32,660
at the moment,

1733
01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:34,240
there's a lot of paper rustling,

1734
01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:36,020
a lot of panic setting in,

1735
01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:38,000
the boys don't know what to answer,

1736
01:03:38,340 --> 01:03:39,320
or who to answer to,

1737
01:03:39,320 --> 01:03:45,780
Ryan's having a stretch there,

1738
01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:47,500
from Ortiz's office,

1739
01:03:47,700 --> 01:03:48,880
and was there anyone else there,

1740
01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:49,820
um,

1741
01:03:50,100 --> 01:03:50,920
Trish Whelan,

1742
01:03:51,100 --> 01:03:52,200
from the solicitor's office as well,

1743
01:03:52,740 --> 01:03:53,020
okay,

1744
01:03:53,340 --> 01:03:53,640
all right,

1745
01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:53,940
okay,

1746
01:03:54,540 --> 01:03:55,780
can I just move on there,

1747
01:03:55,780 --> 01:03:56,280
um,

1748
01:03:56,540 --> 01:03:56,860
to,

1749
01:03:57,160 --> 01:03:57,420
uh,

1750
01:03:57,540 --> 01:03:58,380
Ryan Troubledy yourself,

1751
01:03:58,680 --> 01:03:59,220
Ms Troubledy,

1752
01:03:59,380 --> 01:04:00,300
can I just ask,

1753
01:04:00,460 --> 01:04:01,480
you know this whole issue,

1754
01:04:01,640 --> 01:04:03,060
and my colleague raised it about,

1755
01:04:03,500 --> 01:04:03,720
you know,

1756
01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:04,560
the level of,

1757
01:04:04,560 --> 01:04:06,440
I'm just trying to find that picture guys,

1758
01:04:06,540 --> 01:04:06,600
I,

1759
01:04:06,600 --> 01:04:07,980
I don't know where it is,

1760
01:04:07,980 --> 01:04:08,660
2016,

1761
01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:11,160
the income through the accounts,

1762
01:04:11,260 --> 01:04:12,500
was 660,000,

1763
01:04:12,660 --> 01:04:13,820
and I accept that there,

1764
01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:15,520
has been a reduction,

1765
01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:17,420
in what you're receiving,

1766
01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:17,700
but,

1767
01:04:18,220 --> 01:04:19,460
all of this controversy,

1768
01:04:19,900 --> 01:04:20,100
you know,

1769
01:04:20,140 --> 01:04:21,500
there's now a whole problem,

1770
01:04:21,860 --> 01:04:22,340
within,

1771
01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:22,980
I suppose,

1772
01:04:23,060 --> 01:04:23,700
the entire country,

1773
01:04:23,780 --> 01:04:24,620
but also within RT,

1774
01:04:24,780 --> 01:04:25,040
about,

1775
01:04:25,500 --> 01:04:26,820
the whole issue of trust,

1776
01:04:26,940 --> 01:04:28,280
the whole issue of the ethics of this,

1777
01:04:28,780 --> 01:04:29,060
I mean,

1778
01:04:29,220 --> 01:04:30,800
looking at it now,

1779
01:04:31,180 --> 01:04:32,540
how do you feel,

1780
01:04:32,540 --> 01:04:34,140
that the trust can be built up,

1781
01:04:34,300 --> 01:04:34,720
back up,

1782
01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:36,060
and the second thing is,

1783
01:04:36,320 --> 01:04:36,660
about,

1784
01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:37,780
your own,

1785
01:04:37,780 --> 01:04:39,540
It's gone,

1786
01:04:39,660 --> 01:04:40,700
I can't find it at all,

1787
01:04:40,700 --> 01:04:41,600
about going back,

1788
01:04:41,700 --> 01:04:42,520
working for RT,

1789
01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:43,960
what's your own,

1790
01:04:44,300 --> 01:04:44,460
oh,

1791
01:04:44,520 --> 01:04:45,580
I don't have any doubt,

1792
01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:46,600
I want to go back to work,

1793
01:04:46,600 --> 01:04:46,980
on the radio,

1794
01:04:47,180 --> 01:04:48,020
as soon as possible,

1795
01:04:48,560 --> 01:04:49,480
I think that,

1796
01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:50,200
I don't say that,

1797
01:04:50,300 --> 01:04:51,300
with any arrogance,

1798
01:04:51,540 --> 01:04:51,920
I just say,

1799
01:04:52,020 --> 01:04:53,920
I express desire,

1800
01:04:54,060 --> 01:04:54,560
it's what I do,

1801
01:04:54,940 --> 01:04:55,820
it's what I know,

1802
01:04:56,060 --> 01:05:00,740
And I want to get back to my team and to the listeners and do my job.

1803
01:05:00,740 --> 01:05:02,740
The whole issue in relation to trust...

1804
01:05:03,320 --> 01:05:11,400
No, I understand that, Deputy, and I will say that I understand the amount of money we're talking about is eye-watering.

1805
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:13,980
I'm not a fool, I understand that.

1806
01:05:14,460 --> 01:05:19,320
But I haven't changed as a person over those years, despite the extraordinary bank policy.

1807
01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:22,240
The question I'm asking you is how do you now rebuild that trust?

1808
01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:24,280
Well, a lot of the trust was taken from me.

1809
01:05:25,360 --> 01:05:29,400
But the question is how do we now rebuild the trust?

1810
01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:32,040
First of all, the trust, if you go back into RT.

1811
01:05:32,540 --> 01:05:36,440
Secondly, the trust in RT itself.

1812
01:05:36,520 --> 01:05:41,400
And certainly believing, as regards to building the trust, we put your own colleagues...

1813
01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:46,820
I will just say I think that they're off to a good start this week with the new Director-General.

1814
01:05:47,060 --> 01:05:52,620
I think that hopefully people will see what I've said today and will hear what I'm saying today.

1815
01:05:52,700 --> 01:05:57,920
and they'll realise that a lot of what's happened over the last three weeks, I've been dragged into a mess not of my own making.

1816
01:05:57,920 --> 01:05:58,500
With your colleagues?

1817
01:05:58,500 --> 01:05:59,380
Deputy Devin.

1818
01:05:59,380 --> 01:06:02,380
My colleagues... The only thing I have for my colleagues is respect.

1819
01:06:02,380 --> 01:06:03,380
Deputy Devin.

1820
01:06:03,380 --> 01:06:05,100
Is that the best you can come up with?

1821
01:06:05,100 --> 01:06:08,420
Thank you very much to our witnesses for your attendance this morning.

1822
01:06:08,420 --> 01:06:08,560
Number two, this morning.

1823
01:06:08,560 --> 01:06:18,360
And can I say at the outset, you know, such is the issue surrounding this, that you're right about people stopping you.

1824
01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:20,420
Obviously, we're living in the same area.

1825
01:06:20,420 --> 01:06:30,260
And I know the high regard in which you're held and the respect people have for you, including kids who are wondering why the Toy Man is being in the news.

1826
01:06:30,260 --> 01:06:31,300
The Toy Man!

1827
01:06:31,980 --> 01:06:33,260
The Toy Man!

1828
01:06:33,600 --> 01:06:42,460
Obviously, I wonder, given the events of the last two weeks, we have engaged with RTE quite a number of times.

1829
01:06:43,020 --> 01:06:43,920
The Toy Man!

1830
01:06:43,920 --> 01:06:57,100
Has that been the reason why you wanted to come here voluntarily? Or was it actually more of what you heard from those engagements with RTE and what they've said, the various executives and board members?

1831
01:06:57,100 --> 01:07:04,640
Or has it been that everything else surrounded this whole issue? What's the main driver of you wanting to be here?

1832
01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:08,480
I think that my name has been desperately sullied.

1833
01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:12,880
You have been peddling live. I think my reputation has been sullied. I'm deeply upset.

1834
01:07:12,880 --> 01:07:21,060
I'm hurt. I am in... I'm... It's hard to leave the house, if you really want me to be honest about it.

1835
01:07:21,060 --> 01:07:27,560
So, for what? I spent three weeks watching people telling stories.

1836
01:07:27,560 --> 01:07:33,560
And I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm leaving a gap. Forgive me, it's a comma, not a full stop.

1837
01:07:33,560 --> 01:07:41,740
But... I know... I'm not looking for sympathy now, or a violin. I'm simply saying to you. You asked me the question.

1838
01:07:41,740 --> 01:07:49,740
And you bring up, like, the kids. My relationship with the children of Ireland is so important to me. I know that sounds grandiose, but actually it is.

1839
01:07:49,740 --> 01:07:55,920
I want them to be happy and hopeful and proud to be Irish and read lots of books and just be wonderful young people.

1840
01:07:55,920 --> 01:07:57,920
You know, that doesn't change.

1841
01:07:57,920 --> 01:08:01,920
You know? But what's happened in the last three weeks...

1842
01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:03,100
It's like a frenzy.

1843
01:08:03,100 --> 01:08:03,100
It's like a frenzy.

1844
01:08:03,100 --> 01:08:15,720
Can I specifically ask you then, in terms of what you've heard, and maybe to Mr. Kelly as well on this, all of the evidence, and I presume you watched all of the evidence that's been given to both Oroctis committees over the last couple of weeks.

1845
01:08:15,720 --> 01:08:27,080
You know, even in Mr. Tuberty's statement, I think you refer to it as a fog of confusion. To me, it's a cloud of confusion at this point, because there's what you're saying...

1846
01:08:27,080 --> 01:08:28,700
It's a murky, murky fog.

1847
01:08:28,840 --> 01:08:31,520
...directly contradicts what this committee and others have...

1848
01:08:31,520 --> 01:08:32,480
It's a murky fog.

1849
01:08:32,580 --> 01:08:37,480
...over the last couple of weeks by certain individuals. And that's extremely worrying.

1850
01:08:38,080 --> 01:08:41,500
Vincent Brown, thank you very much. Folliot and Paul Gascoigne, thank you.

1851
01:08:41,500 --> 01:08:43,080
Fact and truthful perspective.

1852
01:08:43,120 --> 01:08:43,960
The Toy Man.

1853
01:08:43,960 --> 01:09:12,120
Nobby Gobbler, thank you.

1854
01:09:12,200 --> 01:09:14,780
I doubt your decision, or when you make your decision.

1855
01:09:14,780 --> 01:09:15,260
Please don't.

1856
01:09:15,360 --> 01:09:17,100
But for clarity, in terms of the public...

1857
01:09:17,100 --> 01:09:17,640
Please don't.

1858
01:09:17,720 --> 01:09:21,700
Is there any correspondence predating kind of...

1859
01:09:21,700 --> 01:09:22,260
This scandal.

1860
01:09:22,280 --> 01:09:23,180
April, May, yeah.

1861
01:09:23,260 --> 01:09:23,960
The Ortee scandal.

1862
01:09:23,980 --> 01:09:25,240
Between the two of you, just...

1863
01:09:25,240 --> 01:09:26,760
It's not that I want to publish...

1864
01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:27,880
The Toy Man, thank you.

1865
01:09:27,960 --> 01:09:30,260
...clear the record. Is there anything that has...

1866
01:09:30,260 --> 01:09:33,200
Text messages, emails, anything that's saying, look, this is coming up, or...

1867
01:09:33,200 --> 01:09:34,460
Sorry.

1868
01:09:34,460 --> 01:09:34,540
Sorry.

1869
01:09:35,140 --> 01:09:35,360
Definitely.

1870
01:09:36,540 --> 01:09:37,860
We asked to come here today.

1871
01:09:38,040 --> 01:09:38,380
I understand.

1872
01:09:38,380 --> 01:09:39,480
We asked to come here today.

1873
01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:39,740
Yep.

1874
01:09:39,920 --> 01:09:40,780
We weren't invited.

1875
01:09:40,940 --> 01:09:41,360
We asked.

1876
01:09:41,660 --> 01:09:47,180
And we saw, over the last three weeks, I've never seen such horrendous, horrendous reporting.

1877
01:09:47,840 --> 01:09:53,980
And why, suddenly, the most trusted man in Ireland, Ryan Turbidee, it was, like, throw him under a bus.

1878
01:09:54,140 --> 01:09:54,300
What?

1879
01:09:54,440 --> 01:09:54,680
Why?

1880
01:09:55,000 --> 01:09:55,320
Why?

1881
01:09:55,640 --> 01:10:00,600
When that report came out, the first report came out, that was sent out from the board on the 27th.

1882
01:10:00,740 --> 01:10:01,620
Yeah, this is the statement.

1883
01:10:01,880 --> 01:10:02,460
Yeah, the statement.

1884
01:10:03,060 --> 01:10:05,820
We had to ask our lawyers, can we get a copy?

1885
01:10:05,960 --> 01:10:08,000
Because, again, we're on the back foot.

1886
01:10:08,200 --> 01:10:12,020
When RT said at the top 10 earners, again, we get 10 minutes.

1887
01:10:12,440 --> 01:10:15,560
And, again, I had to put in a request, can we please have the information?

1888
01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:18,380
And, again, so we got the statement.

1889
01:10:18,920 --> 01:10:22,960
And when we got the statement, half an hour before, in doubt, we said, there's inaccuracies in this.

1890
01:10:23,620 --> 01:10:26,480
And Grand Fort has said, there's no wrongdoing on behalf of Ryan Turbidee and Old Kelly.

1891
01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:27,160
Everything was...

1892
01:10:27,160 --> 01:10:28,100
Lads, lads, lads.

1893
01:10:28,120 --> 01:10:29,620
The authors put it in, and they didn't.

1894
01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:30,600
Chill out, chill.

1895
01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:32,060
Lads, lads, lads, lads, lads.

1896
01:10:32,620 --> 01:10:34,000
It was put in, right?

1897
01:10:34,340 --> 01:10:35,980
Stick it on the barter account.

1898
01:10:36,760 --> 01:10:36,940
Yeah?

1899
01:10:37,240 --> 01:10:38,120
Don't worry about it.

1900
01:10:38,160 --> 01:10:40,280
Stick it on the fucking barter account.

1901
01:10:41,560 --> 01:10:43,600
Let's get out of here and go for a few jars, yeah?

1902
01:10:44,880 --> 01:10:47,220
So, I'm sorry.

1903
01:10:47,360 --> 01:10:48,980
We have...

1904
01:10:48,980 --> 01:10:51,860
This has been the worst of times.

1905
01:10:52,100 --> 01:10:52,640
The worst of times.

1906
01:10:52,640 --> 01:10:53,660
No, I appreciate that.

1907
01:10:53,740 --> 01:10:54,900
And I know that's why you're here.

1908
01:10:55,700 --> 01:10:56,860
I'd like to add...

1909
01:10:56,860 --> 01:10:57,840
People have families.

1910
01:10:59,360 --> 01:11:00,400
People have families.

1911
01:11:00,660 --> 01:11:01,520
Come on, everyone.

1912
01:11:02,180 --> 01:11:02,720
I don't know what it means.

1913
01:11:03,100 --> 01:11:03,740
In the middle of something.

1914
01:11:03,900 --> 01:11:04,260
Get that.

1915
01:11:04,740 --> 01:11:06,120
I'm not doing my first radio.

1916
01:11:06,520 --> 01:11:07,180
I'm in a public eye.

1917
01:11:07,760 --> 01:11:08,500
I've never seen it.

1918
01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:12,300
I don't know if any of you have been cancelled before, but let me tell you, you don't want

1919
01:11:12,300 --> 01:11:12,620
to be there.

1920
01:11:12,700 --> 01:11:14,440
So, just in terms...

1921
01:11:14,440 --> 01:11:14,840
Okay.

1922
01:11:15,080 --> 01:11:15,540
So, can I...

1923
01:11:15,540 --> 01:11:16,600
Well, we can talk about that later.

1924
01:11:16,600 --> 01:11:19,840
I ask you then, just in terms of the...

1925
01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:23,880
I suppose the statements that have been made, both the physical statements and indeed the

1926
01:11:23,880 --> 01:11:24,280
oral statements...

1927
01:11:24,280 --> 01:11:24,840
Simon...

1928
01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:30,000
Simon O'Toole in the chat says, the Toy Master.

1929
01:11:30,060 --> 01:11:33,940
I don't know if I'm going to say about the secretly overpay...

1930
01:11:33,940 --> 01:11:38,220
Overpayment by RTE, which you said, which you challenged back in 2020.

1931
01:11:38,600 --> 01:11:40,200
Was that in writing, that challenge?

1932
01:11:40,200 --> 01:11:40,620
It wasn't.

1933
01:11:40,700 --> 01:11:41,200
We have to...

1934
01:11:41,200 --> 01:11:41,720
We have to...

1935
01:11:41,720 --> 01:11:42,580
It's in your documents.

1936
01:11:43,120 --> 01:11:44,360
It's in your documents because...

1937
01:11:44,360 --> 01:11:45,100
There's a lot of documents.

1938
01:11:45,100 --> 01:11:47,420
It's in your documents.

1939
01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:49,980
Check the fucking documents we gave you.

1940
01:11:50,940 --> 01:11:51,540
You have it in writing.

1941
01:11:51,760 --> 01:11:52,340
That's all I wanted to...

1942
01:11:52,340 --> 01:11:55,180
We have it in writing and we went back and we actually asked that.

1943
01:11:55,720 --> 01:11:55,920
Okay.

1944
01:11:56,020 --> 01:12:01,500
Can I just also get a time frame then in terms of the negotiation of Mr. Tuberty's first

1945
01:12:01,500 --> 01:12:01,960
contract?

1946
01:12:02,660 --> 01:12:04,900
That started probably in 2014, was it?

1947
01:12:05,580 --> 01:12:05,840
Sorry.

1948
01:12:06,020 --> 01:12:10,500
The 15 contract would have started probably end of 14.

1949
01:12:10,840 --> 01:12:10,920
Yeah.

1950
01:12:10,920 --> 01:12:11,920
End of 14.

1951
01:12:11,920 --> 01:12:12,920
And then...

1952
01:12:12,920 --> 01:12:13,860
And that ran to 2020.

1953
01:12:14,200 --> 01:12:16,680
And then there was fresh negotiations around that.

1954
01:12:16,800 --> 01:12:16,900
Okay.

1955
01:12:17,020 --> 01:12:23,200
Robert Downey Fluff, the Man Toy, Late Late Toy Man, Raoul Mote and Chris Mack.

1956
01:12:23,280 --> 01:12:23,980
Thank you very much.

1957
01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:25,320
Probably late 19 or so.

1958
01:12:25,320 --> 01:12:26,260
So you can see where...

1959
01:12:26,260 --> 01:12:26,480
You can see where the confusion...

1960
01:12:26,480 --> 01:12:26,980
Look at the cup.

1961
01:12:28,020 --> 01:12:29,420
Look at the little cup he has.

1962
01:12:30,180 --> 01:12:32,860
It's the Toy Man with the cup, ladies and gentlemen.

1963
01:12:33,280 --> 01:12:35,500
The Toy Man with the cup.

1964
01:12:35,940 --> 01:12:38,720
I don't have the fucking laugh button for the...

1965
01:12:39,680 --> 01:12:40,380
Forget it.

1966
01:12:40,720 --> 01:12:43,280
Confusion then or the cloud of...

1967
01:12:43,280 --> 01:12:45,320
One has a 20% pay cut and the other one has a...

1968
01:12:45,320 --> 01:12:45,980
Can you skip back?

1969
01:12:46,600 --> 01:12:47,080
Oh, you can.

1970
01:12:47,440 --> 01:12:47,820
Oh, sure.

1971
01:12:47,980 --> 01:12:48,380
Sure.

1972
01:12:48,380 --> 01:12:48,440
Sure.

1973
01:12:48,820 --> 01:12:50,440
Well, the two of them people say...

1974
01:12:50,440 --> 01:12:51,220
Well, this is when...

1975
01:12:51,220 --> 01:12:53,180
Arises when people say...

1976
01:12:53,180 --> 01:12:56,040
Confusion then or...

1977
01:12:56,040 --> 01:12:57,720
Confusion then or...

1978
01:12:57,720 --> 01:12:59,720
The cloud of confusion...

1979
01:12:59,720 --> 01:13:02,280
I'll just...

1980
01:13:02,280 --> 01:13:02,980
I'll just...

1981
01:13:02,980 --> 01:13:04,320
I'll give the...

1982
01:13:04,320 --> 01:13:06,760
Who is it that sent me that...

1983
01:13:06,760 --> 01:13:08,320
The text...

1984
01:13:10,320 --> 01:13:13,160
With the fucking script for the Adam Curtis thing.

1985
01:13:13,280 --> 01:13:14,000
Can't find it now.

1986
01:13:15,060 --> 01:13:16,620
Porrk, thank you very much there.

1987
01:13:16,740 --> 01:13:20,000
The Toy Man was in my kitchen every morning, says Porrk.

1988
01:13:20,060 --> 01:13:21,580
Chilling, chilling situation.

1989
01:13:21,780 --> 01:13:22,060
And...

1990
01:13:22,060 --> 01:13:24,780
If we just think about what that said...

1991
01:13:24,780 --> 01:13:26,420
That Porrk just said there.

1992
01:13:27,420 --> 01:13:28,980
And then we...

1993
01:13:28,980 --> 01:13:32,980
Show this image here of the Toy Man taking a sip from a little...

1994
01:13:33,660 --> 01:13:34,980
Small...

1995
01:13:34,980 --> 01:13:36,940
Cup.

1996
01:13:37,060 --> 01:13:37,520
Where is it?

1997
01:13:37,680 --> 01:13:38,180
Is it gone?

1998
01:13:42,180 --> 01:13:43,760
You did what you were told.

1999
01:13:43,880 --> 01:13:44,060
Yes.

2000
01:13:45,200 --> 01:13:46,400
The Aroctis player.

2001
01:13:46,540 --> 01:13:47,540
Get it sorted, lads.

2002
01:13:47,700 --> 01:13:48,760
I can't skip back.

2003
01:13:48,760 --> 01:13:49,300
It's...

2004
01:13:49,300 --> 01:13:49,680
It's...

2005
01:13:49,680 --> 01:13:50,660
It's great.

2006
01:13:50,760 --> 01:13:51,200
It's live.

2007
01:13:51,320 --> 01:13:51,760
We've got 720p.

2008
01:13:52,420 --> 01:13:52,760
But if...

2009
01:13:52,760 --> 01:13:54,380
Is anyone watching there in the Aroctis?

2010
01:13:55,020 --> 01:13:55,600
Anyone...

2011
01:13:55,600 --> 01:13:57,020
Anyone tuned into this stream?

2012
01:13:58,320 --> 01:13:59,740
You need to sort the player out.

2013
01:13:59,900 --> 01:14:01,300
It's better than the RT player.

2014
01:14:01,420 --> 01:14:02,040
I'll give you that.

2015
01:14:02,180 --> 01:14:03,220
But it's not...

2016
01:14:03,220 --> 01:14:04,840
It's not as good as YouTube.

2017
01:14:05,640 --> 01:14:07,040
Where is it?

2018
01:14:07,540 --> 01:14:09,960
I've worked personally with RT for 23 years.

2019
01:14:11,040 --> 01:14:12,680
I'd never have questions working with RT.

2020
01:14:12,680 --> 01:14:14,800
And did they ever ask you to invoice a company you never heard of?

2021
01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:17,240
We had never done a roadshow like this before.

2022
01:14:17,400 --> 01:14:18,060
No, no, but...

2023
01:14:18,060 --> 01:14:19,220
So this is the first time.

2024
01:14:19,560 --> 01:14:20,300
The Renault...

2025
01:14:20,300 --> 01:14:20,540
I assumed.

2026
01:14:20,880 --> 01:14:22,300
The Renault Roadshow.

2027
01:14:22,420 --> 01:14:22,820
The Renault.

2028
01:14:23,120 --> 01:14:23,340
Okay.

2029
01:14:23,540 --> 01:14:26,600
And in terms of that Zoom call then, so the 7th of May, right?

2030
01:14:26,620 --> 01:14:28,600
With Dee Forbes and RT Lawers.

2031
01:14:28,940 --> 01:14:29,180
Okay.

2032
01:14:29,440 --> 01:14:31,660
And so were they the solicitors that you're talking about?

2033
01:14:31,840 --> 01:14:32,000
Yes.

2034
01:14:32,000 --> 01:14:32,920
The Trish Whelan and Criter...

2035
01:14:32,920 --> 01:14:38,460
So there was three representatives from RTE, two from the solicitor's office and the DG...

2036
01:14:38,460 --> 01:14:43,300
Sorry, there was one from the solicitor's office, the DG, and myself, and then a colleague

2037
01:14:43,300 --> 01:14:43,680
of mine.

2038
01:14:43,940 --> 01:14:44,620
A colleague of yours.

2039
01:14:44,620 --> 01:14:44,680
Yeah.

2040
01:14:44,680 --> 01:14:45,340
So it's on your side.

2041
01:14:45,440 --> 01:14:45,620
Okay.

2042
01:14:45,620 --> 01:14:47,640
And can I just ask then in terms of...

2043
01:14:47,640 --> 01:14:48,220
Noel Kellage.

2044
01:14:48,880 --> 01:14:50,520
Noel Kellage colleagues.

2045
01:14:51,100 --> 01:14:55,320
In terms of the toy show, the musical, because we've heard a lot about this and we've heard

2046
01:14:55,320 --> 01:14:57,100
there was a 2.2 million loss.

2047
01:14:57,220 --> 01:14:57,760
Now I know it's not...

2048
01:14:57,760 --> 01:14:58,980
2.2 million!

2049
01:14:59,200 --> 01:15:02,100
...directly involved, but you're an agent obviously on behalf of Mr. Tuberty.

2050
01:15:02,500 --> 01:15:05,280
But Mr. Tuberty obviously worked with or works with RTE.

2051
01:15:05,660 --> 01:15:06,760
Can I please answer that one?

2052
01:15:06,760 --> 01:15:07,640
Well, we haven't got the best one.

2053
01:15:07,640 --> 01:15:08,880
Well, can I ask this...

2054
01:15:08,880 --> 01:15:09,880
He's dying...

2055
01:15:09,880 --> 01:15:11,960
Ryan's dying to answer certain questions.

2056
01:15:12,080 --> 01:15:12,600
From the...

2057
01:15:12,600 --> 01:15:13,480
Toy...

2058
01:15:13,480 --> 01:15:15,760
From the late, late show...

2059
01:15:15,760 --> 01:15:17,520
The late, late toy man.

2060
01:15:17,560 --> 01:15:18,600
...to the musical.

2061
01:15:19,160 --> 01:15:26,020
Be it production staff, other personnel from RTE directly working on Toy Show the musical.

2062
01:15:26,440 --> 01:15:27,440
The toy show...

2063
01:15:27,440 --> 01:15:27,900
The toy show...

2064
01:15:27,900 --> 01:15:28,060
Sorry.

2065
01:15:28,160 --> 01:15:30,600
Toy Show the musical was something I had nothing to do with.

2066
01:15:30,780 --> 01:15:31,840
So I think it's only...

2067
01:15:31,840 --> 01:15:32,360
Are you aware of anybody who was here?

2068
01:15:32,360 --> 01:15:37,240
I think it's only fair to say that you should put those questions to people in RTE about that.

2069
01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:39,440
Because in fairness, like I...

2070
01:15:39,440 --> 01:15:40,100
That's not...

2071
01:15:40,100 --> 01:15:41,060
That was not my...

2072
01:15:41,060 --> 01:15:45,240
You're not aware of any staff that were seconded to from RTE to the Toy Show the musical?

2073
01:15:45,240 --> 01:15:48,640
No, there might have been people working in parallel, but seconded is probably too strong a word.

2074
01:15:48,940 --> 01:15:49,160
Okay.

2075
01:15:49,320 --> 01:15:49,560
Okay.

2076
01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:50,360
Okay.

2077
01:15:50,520 --> 01:15:58,440
And then, just in the last couple of seconds, can I just ask, probably Mr. Traverty, given that you're the face, as was said earlier, of this issue.

2078
01:15:58,580 --> 01:15:59,260
Yeah, that's...

2079
01:15:59,260 --> 01:15:59,900
That's been unfortunate.

2080
01:15:59,900 --> 01:16:06,700
This is the story about a musical about the late, late toy show, which cost 2.2 million euro.

2081
01:16:07,700 --> 01:16:08,640
The public plus.

2082
01:16:10,160 --> 01:16:12,720
What has been the biggest inaccuracy that you've heard?

2083
01:16:12,980 --> 01:16:17,320
It was sounded as one of the biggest new musical sensations to hit the country.

2084
01:16:18,060 --> 01:16:19,060
But this was a lie.

2085
01:16:21,240 --> 01:16:21,800
Thank you.

2086
01:16:22,140 --> 01:16:23,420
Deputy John Brady, 10 minutes.

2087
01:16:24,120 --> 01:16:39,360
I'd like to welcome our witnesses here this morning before the committee, and hopefully this meeting will go some way towards getting transparency, something that I think has been, you know, missing up until at this point.

2088
01:16:39,360 --> 01:16:44,240
I just want to establish a timeline, a clear timeline as to who knew what and when.

2089
01:16:44,920 --> 01:16:58,180
So, we know on March the 3rd, Mr. Traverty, you had stated when questioned about your ongoing position with the late, late show as to whether you will continue or not.

2090
01:16:58,240 --> 01:17:00,320
You said, I don't know where this is coming from.

2091
01:17:00,400 --> 01:17:02,640
The story comes up every year or two.

2092
01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:07,260
I am here talking to you today with a view to go straight back into the job I love.

2093
01:17:08,260 --> 01:17:10,660
Comedy sounds in the sound bank.

2094
01:17:10,840 --> 01:17:12,860
Maybe we've got some comedy sitcom sounds.

2095
01:17:12,860 --> 01:17:15,200
I can fill you in on all the details you want.

2096
01:17:15,200 --> 01:17:16,360
Okay, no, there's no need to know.

2097
01:17:16,560 --> 01:17:17,680
But that's accurate.

2098
01:17:17,800 --> 01:17:18,480
March the 3rd.

2099
01:17:18,660 --> 01:17:27,340
March the 7th, we know from questioning that Deloitte first contacted Richard Collins, the chief financial officer.

2100
01:17:27,480 --> 01:17:29,260
I think that has been established.

2101
01:17:29,460 --> 01:17:30,820
It's not disputed.

2102
01:17:31,300 --> 01:17:45,920
We know Mr. Collins then on March the 8th contacted Dee Forbes to get to the bottom as to the nature of those two invoices that we know have been issued.

2103
01:17:46,040 --> 01:17:47,980
That's not up for dispute.

2104
01:17:47,980 --> 01:17:57,460
Now it was suggested or it was stated that a meeting took place between Mr. Kane and someone within RTE.

2105
01:17:58,360 --> 01:17:59,840
It's a crazy bit of business.

2106
01:18:00,460 --> 01:18:01,760
Absolute crazy bit of business.

2107
01:18:02,580 --> 01:18:08,600
So far we've had revelations that Ryan was known as the toy man to children.

2108
01:18:09,500 --> 01:18:13,520
And also that he was in some fella's kitchen five days a week.

2109
01:18:14,820 --> 01:18:15,760
Crazy bit of business.

2110
01:18:15,760 --> 01:18:17,620
There was a barter account.

2111
01:18:18,220 --> 01:18:19,520
There was a Renault involved.

2112
01:18:21,700 --> 01:18:27,100
And that Noel Kellogg had no idea about what was going on.

2113
01:18:27,180 --> 01:18:28,520
Financial impropriety.

2114
01:18:29,020 --> 01:18:30,780
What was going on inside RTE.

2115
01:18:30,980 --> 01:18:33,900
When did you notify RTE that you were going to...

2116
01:18:33,900 --> 01:18:34,900
Sorry, sorry, sorry.

2117
01:18:35,460 --> 01:18:36,140
Alan Tyler.

2118
01:18:36,360 --> 01:18:37,240
You thought there was somebody else?

2119
01:18:37,240 --> 01:18:37,880
Yeah, sorry, sorry.

2120
01:18:37,980 --> 01:18:39,700
I'll come back to you if you want to go back to that question first.

2121
01:18:39,700 --> 01:18:39,860
Sorry.

2122
01:18:40,360 --> 01:18:41,960
Yeah, Alan Tyler, the new head of entertainment.

2123
01:18:42,200 --> 01:18:42,360
Yeah.

2124
01:18:42,500 --> 01:18:42,800
Yes.

2125
01:18:42,800 --> 01:18:44,420
You met with him on what date?

2126
01:18:44,640 --> 01:18:46,020
Alan Tyler, everybody.

2127
01:18:46,160 --> 01:18:47,060
A few times when he started.

2128
01:18:47,360 --> 01:18:48,500
In March, what date?

2129
01:18:49,240 --> 01:18:52,540
Did he say quite a few tiles when he started?

2130
01:18:52,720 --> 01:18:53,820
About Alan Tyler.

2131
01:18:54,160 --> 01:18:54,600
Let's have a listen.

2132
01:18:56,260 --> 01:18:57,680
In March, what date?

2133
01:18:57,940 --> 01:18:59,140
In March, what date?

2134
01:19:00,440 --> 01:19:01,540
I'm not really sure.

2135
01:19:01,900 --> 01:19:02,260
I...

2136
01:19:02,260 --> 01:19:06,640
What was the purpose of that meeting?

2137
01:19:06,640 --> 01:19:06,900
Yeah.

2138
01:19:07,100 --> 01:19:08,640
You were just suggesting...

2139
01:19:08,640 --> 01:19:09,680
I don't know.

2140
01:19:09,680 --> 01:19:09,780
I don't know.

2141
01:19:09,780 --> 01:19:09,920
I don't know.

2142
01:19:10,780 --> 01:19:13,300
I would have met with him quite a few times when he started.

2143
01:19:13,560 --> 01:19:14,060
In March.

2144
01:19:14,360 --> 01:19:17,520
He said, I met with him quite a few times when he started.

2145
01:19:17,660 --> 01:19:21,300
I thought he said he had quite a few tiles when he started.

2146
01:19:21,480 --> 01:19:23,160
And his name was Tyler as well.

2147
01:19:23,740 --> 01:19:29,720
Maybe there was some further development in this murky kind of thing that somebody was getting

2148
01:19:29,720 --> 01:19:31,220
a kickback of tiles.

2149
01:19:31,440 --> 01:19:32,820
Maybe he was getting a kitchen done.

2150
01:19:33,340 --> 01:19:34,560
And then there was tiles going.

2151
01:19:34,680 --> 01:19:39,280
Maybe there was like a sponsorship from Right Price Tiles or any of that sort of jazz.

2152
01:19:39,460 --> 01:19:42,020
I'm sure it'll all come to light.

2153
01:19:42,020 --> 01:19:45,740
On behalf of Informed Ortea, March the 13th.

2154
01:19:46,220 --> 01:19:46,960
And that's right.

2155
01:19:47,900 --> 01:19:48,140
Okay.

2156
01:19:48,800 --> 01:19:54,600
On the same day, you announced publicly that you were going to be stepping back from the

2157
01:19:54,600 --> 01:19:55,100
Late Late Show.

2158
01:19:55,460 --> 01:19:56,520
No, that was...

2159
01:19:56,520 --> 01:20:01,020
You were talking about that interview, that few weeks before where I was at an event.

2160
01:20:02,380 --> 01:20:04,460
And do you want me to go into this or...

2161
01:20:04,460 --> 01:20:04,640
No.

2162
01:20:05,000 --> 01:20:10,700
You stated publicly on March the 16th that you were going to be stepping back.

2163
01:20:10,700 --> 01:20:13,900
When did you notify RTE of your decision?

2164
01:20:14,440 --> 01:20:14,800
Oh, sorry.

2165
01:20:14,900 --> 01:20:15,320
Excuse me.

2166
01:20:15,540 --> 01:20:16,320
Yeah, my apologies.

2167
01:20:16,680 --> 01:20:18,880
The 13th to RTE and the 16th to the public.

2168
01:20:19,040 --> 01:20:24,420
So, can I ask, had anyone in RTE notified you, Mr. Tuberty?

2169
01:20:24,600 --> 01:20:24,740
No.

2170
01:20:25,300 --> 01:20:26,060
Or you, Mr. Kelly?

2171
01:20:26,140 --> 01:20:26,320
No.

2172
01:20:26,520 --> 01:20:29,180
Of the concerns that the light had?

2173
01:20:29,320 --> 01:20:30,200
Can I answer?

2174
01:20:30,360 --> 01:20:31,860
I really must, Deputy.

2175
01:20:32,140 --> 01:20:33,640
Toy Story 5!

2176
01:20:34,280 --> 01:20:35,760
Because we can be here until the last...

2177
01:20:35,760 --> 01:20:36,900
Yes or no?

2178
01:20:37,080 --> 01:20:38,260
Because time is up for us.

2179
01:20:38,260 --> 01:20:38,720
Well, do you know what?

2180
01:20:38,860 --> 01:20:39,480
Yes or no?

2181
01:20:39,540 --> 01:20:40,680
Did anyone from RTE...

2182
01:20:40,680 --> 01:20:42,300
I need a little time to, forgive me.

2183
01:20:42,400 --> 01:20:48,220
But I will be here until the last dog barks, until you believe me that that decision came

2184
01:20:48,220 --> 01:20:49,720
from my heart and soul.

2185
01:20:50,040 --> 01:20:53,200
That started being that decision, the kernel of it was last August.

2186
01:20:53,340 --> 01:20:57,340
So, we can talk about timelines and dates and grant fortune and everything else.

2187
01:20:57,540 --> 01:20:59,280
This was a very personal decision.

2188
01:20:59,660 --> 01:20:59,820
Okay.

2189
01:20:59,940 --> 01:21:01,400
So, can you answer the question then?

2190
01:21:01,400 --> 01:21:08,580
And did anyone from RTE contact either you, Mr. Tuberty, or you, Mr. Kelly, about the review that the light had initiated?

2191
01:21:08,580 --> 01:21:09,420
Not till May.

2192
01:21:09,780 --> 01:21:10,540
Not till May.

2193
01:21:10,660 --> 01:21:10,860
Correct.

2194
01:21:10,960 --> 01:21:11,320
Not till May.

2195
01:21:11,500 --> 01:21:11,620
Not till May.

2196
01:21:11,620 --> 01:21:11,920
Not till May.

2197
01:21:11,920 --> 01:21:12,680
Great stuff.

2198
01:21:12,820 --> 01:21:13,080
We've got...

2199
01:21:13,080 --> 01:21:13,520
We've got you.

2200
01:21:13,600 --> 01:21:14,160
The picture...

2201
01:21:14,160 --> 01:21:14,260
Sorry.

2202
01:21:14,260 --> 01:21:14,880
I was the one who went to it.

2203
01:21:14,880 --> 01:21:15,000
Sorry.

2204
01:21:15,040 --> 01:21:16,180
The picture has been found.

2205
01:21:16,400 --> 01:21:17,620
The picture has been found.

2206
01:21:18,520 --> 01:21:18,880
Yeah.

2207
01:21:18,960 --> 01:21:24,620
If you could send Conor Ferran, I don't know how you would go about channeling this picture to me.

2208
01:21:27,780 --> 01:21:28,820
Because I can't...

2209
01:21:28,820 --> 01:21:30,160
You can't put a link in the chat.

2210
01:21:31,380 --> 01:21:35,520
Just maybe describe where I can find it there and I'll get to it.

2211
01:21:35,520 --> 01:21:37,580
Why was that only signed?

2212
01:21:38,040 --> 01:21:39,440
Paul Meschel, thank you very much.

2213
01:21:39,600 --> 01:21:42,140
And Buzz Shite here as well.

2214
01:21:42,220 --> 01:21:42,900
Thank you very much.

2215
01:21:43,400 --> 01:21:44,660
For 2020, the first...

2216
01:21:44,660 --> 01:21:45,400
Did you hear that?

2217
01:21:45,900 --> 01:21:46,420
Did you hear that?

2218
01:21:46,780 --> 01:21:47,620
Then it went to 21.

2219
01:21:48,620 --> 01:21:52,860
Big, big, exasperated exhalation there from Ryan.

2220
01:21:53,120 --> 01:21:54,940
Things are getting tough here, guys.

2221
01:21:55,620 --> 01:21:56,340
Listen to this.

2222
01:21:56,860 --> 01:21:58,260
At that stage...

2223
01:21:58,260 --> 01:21:59,740
Because the agreement originally...

2224
01:21:59,740 --> 01:22:00,060
Look, that...

2225
01:22:00,060 --> 01:22:03,140
It was supposed to be for 2020, the first...

2226
01:22:03,140 --> 01:22:04,220
The first lot of events.

2227
01:22:04,360 --> 01:22:05,140
But then that was COVID.

2228
01:22:05,280 --> 01:22:06,140
Then it went to 21.

2229
01:22:06,280 --> 01:22:06,960
The first lot of events.

2230
01:22:07,220 --> 01:22:07,940
The first...

2231
01:22:07,940 --> 01:22:11,600
It was supposed to be for 2020, the first...

2232
01:22:11,600 --> 01:22:12,560
The first lot of events.

2233
01:22:12,780 --> 01:22:13,480
But then that was COVID.

2234
01:22:13,640 --> 01:22:14,360
Then it went to 21.

2235
01:22:14,480 --> 01:22:15,460
The first lot of events.

2236
01:22:15,460 --> 01:22:18,280
But it was supposed to be for 2020, the first...

2237
01:22:18,280 --> 01:22:20,040
The first lot of events.

2238
01:22:20,280 --> 01:22:20,820
But then it was COVID.

2239
01:22:21,420 --> 01:22:22,040
Sent to RTE.

2240
01:22:22,280 --> 01:22:23,260
They sent them to Astus.

2241
01:22:23,300 --> 01:22:23,960
Okay, I'm just...

2242
01:22:23,960 --> 01:22:25,280
I'm just asking about this.

2243
01:22:25,280 --> 01:22:27,720
The tripartite agreement, in fairness.

2244
01:22:27,900 --> 01:22:28,580
Oh, Mr. Kelly.

2245
01:22:29,040 --> 01:22:33,380
So it's purely coincidental that that was taken down off the shelf and signed in April.

2246
01:22:33,380 --> 01:22:34,460
Rub a dub in a tub.

2247
01:22:34,580 --> 01:22:35,340
Thank you very much.

2248
01:22:35,380 --> 01:22:38,480
A month and a half after Deloitte raised these concerns.

2249
01:22:38,560 --> 01:22:39,340
The edibles.

2250
01:22:39,580 --> 01:22:40,040
The agreement.

2251
01:22:40,920 --> 01:22:43,180
The treatment in the agreement is Renault.

2252
01:22:44,180 --> 01:22:45,020
The Renault agreement.

2253
01:22:45,140 --> 01:22:45,760
You've got RTE.

2254
01:22:45,900 --> 01:22:46,440
You've got Renault.

2255
01:22:46,440 --> 01:22:48,240
Separate agreement just to go...

2256
01:22:48,240 --> 01:22:50,100
We had right price tiles.

2257
01:22:50,600 --> 01:22:51,820
We had the pony club.

2258
01:22:52,200 --> 01:22:53,280
I bought a pony.

2259
01:22:53,400 --> 01:22:55,000
I gave Ryan the pony.

2260
01:22:56,200 --> 01:23:00,440
Then Renault came in with an extra repartite upgrade.

2261
01:23:01,280 --> 01:23:05,800
On top of the tripartite, we had a troika in there as well.

2262
01:23:07,640 --> 01:23:10,880
Antonio Perala there saying that Ryan's exhalation is down.

2263
01:23:11,060 --> 01:23:13,780
Somebody's just given some information to Noel Kelly.

2264
01:23:13,860 --> 01:23:14,020
Look.

2265
01:23:14,280 --> 01:23:18,060
The contract had been formed or come about.

2266
01:23:18,480 --> 01:23:20,280
So can I just ask in relation...

2267
01:23:20,280 --> 01:23:25,380
On the 18th of April, page 35 in the pack.

2268
01:23:26,060 --> 01:23:27,380
Niamh, thank you for calling this morning.

2269
01:23:27,460 --> 01:23:27,920
Email below.

2270
01:23:28,240 --> 01:23:30,840
The one I mentioned refers to the third side letter, which you don't seem to have in file.

2271
01:23:30,920 --> 01:23:32,440
We don't seem to have fully signed copy with Renault.

2272
01:23:33,780 --> 01:23:34,620
We signed it later.

2273
01:23:34,700 --> 01:23:37,920
The first contact with...

2274
01:23:39,080 --> 01:23:40,120
Sorry, but the first contact...

2275
01:23:40,120 --> 01:23:41,220
We weren't concealing any issue.

2276
01:23:41,560 --> 01:23:42,240
It was just a Renault.

2277
01:23:42,240 --> 01:23:42,740
It was just a Renault.

2278
01:23:42,740 --> 01:23:46,860
Can I just ask in relation to the commercial contract...

2279
01:23:46,860 --> 01:23:47,900
The Renault equipment.

2280
01:23:49,560 --> 01:23:50,000
Barter.

2281
01:23:51,680 --> 01:23:52,160
Tripartite.

2282
01:23:52,160 --> 01:23:53,380
Now put it forward first.

2283
01:23:54,120 --> 01:23:55,940
The new Renault Clio.

2284
01:23:55,940 --> 01:23:59,180
It's unusual in terms of your negotiate on behalf of...

2285
01:23:59,180 --> 01:24:02,000
Drive the new Renault barter account tonight.

2286
01:24:02,880 --> 01:24:05,460
Starting at €75,000 per annum.

2287
01:24:05,460 --> 01:24:06,580
...that you represent.

2288
01:24:06,920 --> 01:24:10,100
Would it be normal that RTE would put forward proposals...

2289
01:24:10,100 --> 01:24:12,400
Don't worry about the license fee payers, John.

2290
01:24:13,040 --> 01:24:14,580
They're only fucking chips anyway.

2291
01:24:15,040 --> 01:24:21,600
This is exceptional because Ryan, as the host of the Late Late Show...

2292
01:24:21,600 --> 01:24:23,320
...and Renault as the sponsor of the Late Late Show...

2293
01:24:23,320 --> 01:24:25,960
...and the Late Late Show being owned by RTE...

2294
01:24:26,540 --> 01:24:27,960
...it is...

2295
01:24:27,960 --> 01:24:29,000
Yeah, it's unique.

2296
01:24:29,000 --> 01:24:29,500
It's an exception.

2297
01:24:29,680 --> 01:24:32,420
No other cases of any of the other people.

2298
01:24:32,580 --> 01:24:32,740
No.

2299
01:24:32,740 --> 01:24:33,800
No other cases.

2300
01:24:34,860 --> 01:24:36,320
Poddy Bob, thank you very much.

2301
01:24:36,460 --> 01:24:37,680
In relation to...

2302
01:24:37,680 --> 01:24:39,560
D4 Toy Store.

2303
01:24:40,060 --> 01:24:41,720
Shady Ganley, thank you very much.

2304
01:24:42,500 --> 01:24:45,480
...that we know there was an attempt...

2305
01:24:45,480 --> 01:24:47,060
...and there's a trail there...

2306
01:24:47,060 --> 01:24:49,640
...that no names were to appear on the invoices.

2307
01:24:50,200 --> 01:24:54,820
Whose suggestion was it to label them as consultancy fees?

2308
01:24:55,600 --> 01:24:56,020
RTE.

2309
01:24:56,420 --> 01:24:56,880
RTE?

2310
01:24:57,140 --> 01:25:03,540
Who in RTE informed you to put them down as consultancy fees?

2311
01:25:03,540 --> 01:25:03,840
No.

2312
01:25:05,900 --> 01:25:07,220
Renault have shat the bed.

2313
01:25:07,540 --> 01:25:08,300
They're pulling out.

2314
01:25:09,300 --> 01:25:10,260
Don't worry, though.

2315
01:25:11,960 --> 01:25:13,700
RTE said they're going to foot the bill.

2316
01:25:17,020 --> 01:25:20,220
They say they've got enough money in the public purse...

2317
01:25:20,220 --> 01:25:23,180
...to bankroll tubs for another lifetime.

2318
01:25:25,680 --> 01:25:30,720
What about the license fee payers? Won't they be angry at this?

2319
01:25:31,820 --> 01:25:33,900
Don't worry about the license fee payers, John.

2320
01:25:35,000 --> 01:25:36,760
They're only fucking chibs anyway.

2321
01:25:36,760 --> 01:25:44,760
He stated that it was in his view that the public had been defrauded because of...

2322
01:25:45,440 --> 01:25:45,940
Tubs.

2323
01:25:48,340 --> 01:25:50,080
600,000 tubs.

2324
01:25:51,880 --> 01:25:53,260
It's insane.

2325
01:25:54,120 --> 01:25:59,960
I would suggest purposely confuse the true nature of the invoices...

2326
01:25:59,960 --> 01:26:02,200
Your pedicure dies all over the world.

2327
01:26:02,560 --> 01:26:15,640
Would you agree with me, Chief Financial Officer, that the public has been potentially defrauded because of the issuing of these invoices by yourself and the payment by RTE of the 275,000?

2328
01:26:17,020 --> 01:26:21,600
At all times, we were acting under instruction from RTE, as I've already stated.

2329
01:26:22,560 --> 01:26:28,400
Okay, but would you agree with the Chief Financial Officer that the taxpayer has been...

2330
01:26:28,400 --> 01:26:32,240
Thank you very much there, lads from Hosier Lane.

2331
01:26:32,240 --> 01:26:34,240
Has Tommy not done some driving for Renault, Francis?

2332
01:26:34,240 --> 01:26:34,800
I'm not sure.

2333
01:26:34,800 --> 01:26:35,940
I'm not sure.

2334
01:26:35,940 --> 01:26:38,420
Tom, have you any information on the Renault connection?

2335
01:26:40,080 --> 01:26:45,920
I have not.

2336
01:26:45,920 --> 01:26:55,680
when they the European cars I drive Japan I drive Japan that's what I go for Toyota Nissan reliable

2337
01:26:55,680 --> 01:27:05,300
Suzuki reliable motors like you know good little runners but I do say about that thanks very much

2338
01:27:05,300 --> 01:27:12,200
there Kellogg's tie-by for the tip I do say about fears you know what fear stands for don't you fix

2339
01:27:12,200 --> 01:27:26,900
it again tomorrow thanks Tom for that we have to break for 10 minutes we have to break guys we have to

2340
01:27:26,900 --> 01:27:41,540
break wow 10 minutes unbelievable scenes here at this absolute incendiary pack meeting

2341
01:27:41,540 --> 01:27:48,920
Tupac Shakur the hologram is going to be coming up next we've word that he's on the way he's being

2342
01:27:48,920 --> 01:27:56,300
delivered uh on a on a laser disc and that's coming in but apparently he was meant to be here earlier but

2343
01:27:56,300 --> 01:28:03,280
it's um fastway couriers apparently uh said that they they were there no one was there to pick it up

2344
01:28:03,280 --> 01:28:08,460
that's the text came through but there were there were people there um so they're going to be coming

2345
01:28:08,460 --> 01:28:16,580
back again on another loop in about an hour's time um but hopefully we'll get that laser disc intact and

2346
01:28:16,580 --> 01:28:25,360
they don't just throw it in in the fucking bin like they did with my uh cd drive that I I ordered in order

2347
01:28:25,360 --> 01:28:33,340
to rip old cd-rom fucking windows 98 programs so that I could play them on a virtual machine there a couple

2348
01:28:33,340 --> 01:28:39,800
years ago apparently uh I wasn't in when they rang the bell even though I was and then they decided to

2349
01:28:39,800 --> 01:28:45,300
throw the fucking thing inside a bin which had rubbish inside it as well Tom

2350
01:28:45,300 --> 01:28:52,760
yep not great but I mean at least you did get the package in the end you know that's the main thing

2351
01:28:52,760 --> 01:28:59,020
big man Tyrone thank you very much and 10 minute toy break as well and wheelhead very very kind of you

2352
01:28:59,020 --> 01:29:02,260
there what does the j and thomas j schlug stand for you ask

2353
01:29:02,260 --> 01:29:13,620
hosiah i i i i'd never let that slip on stream but you know you know it now anyway and uh captain sack

2354
01:29:13,620 --> 01:29:20,600
thank you very much you see you've got the the old um oh you've got f123 for xbox as well great stuff

2355
01:29:20,600 --> 01:29:28,600
yeah i want to say thanks as well to captain sack for that uh dead space which uh was duly downloaded

2356
01:29:28,600 --> 01:29:36,360
and installed on the xbox it's just a matter of time before that gets going you know i'm i don't seem to

2357
01:29:36,360 --> 01:29:45,740
have the consistency and uh ability to go from game to game like it was two or three years ago i'm not sure

2358
01:29:45,740 --> 01:29:50,840
what that is but i'm really hoping to get back on that fucking vibe again if i can hit if i can hit a

2359
01:29:50,840 --> 01:30:00,220
good solid vein of fucking finishing the games and getting straight into another one again then i'll be

2360
01:30:00,220 --> 01:30:06,640
i'll be onto a winning streak um but um i don't know what it is it's all about it's it's all about the

2361
01:30:06,640 --> 01:30:14,580
right time the place the frame of mind all sorts of uh factors come into play let's just see if we can

2362
01:30:14,580 --> 01:30:22,260
put on a little bit of music here if we got any kind of uh what have we got music to just play while

2363
01:30:22,260 --> 01:30:38,640
we're um yeah that's that's nice that's like yeah a bit of bossa nova but if i can get if i can get

2364
01:30:38,640 --> 01:30:49,840
myself to a rich vein of streaming content format output then the sky's the limit it really is jimmy

2365
01:30:49,840 --> 01:30:54,880
juices thank you very much there patine and i put reno on it thank you very much as well

2366
01:30:54,880 --> 01:30:59,920
uh tubbers in the voice talking absolute cat says jimmy juices

2367
01:30:59,920 --> 01:31:21,760
the barter accounts the kellys cornflakes the pony in show the show and the pony the reno you know

2368
01:31:21,760 --> 01:31:30,880
it's not coming homey we've got a lovely 75 grand oh 75 grand here a 75 grand there a lovely little bit

2369
01:31:30,880 --> 01:31:41,040
of public accounts committee room we've got the public accounts committee room suspended until 12 42

2370
01:31:41,040 --> 01:31:48,640
public purse the public purse it's funding all the stuff we're gonna need a nurse because i'm feeling sick

2371
01:31:48,640 --> 01:31:57,120
i'm feeling ill i've heard some revelations about some dodgy pills the boys were taken when they were outside waking and baking

2372
01:31:57,120 --> 01:32:06,880
with the reno boys we got the reno lads they're in the house we got the reno lads quiet as mouse they're in the side of the room

2373
01:32:06,880 --> 01:32:11,760
picking it all the answers that are being given to the boys

2374
01:32:11,760 --> 01:32:16,320
uh aiden the average thank you very much there for the tip

2375
01:32:16,320 --> 01:32:25,120
very very kindly turn that down sorry it was a little bit loud there but i might just go for that again

2376
01:32:25,120 --> 01:32:30,240
there maybe i'll go back for i'll do another sing singy bit there we'll change the tune what's our

2377
01:32:31,360 --> 01:32:32,080
here's another one

2378
01:32:42,080 --> 01:32:48,720
we got the reno bop now we'll go back to the other one sorry we got the reno boys

2379
01:32:54,000 --> 01:33:02,080
yeah yeah yeah yeah we got the reno boys they're coming through we got the reno boys how are you

2380
01:33:02,080 --> 01:33:10,960
worth the public account committee at 12 42. did you drive a reno did you see what it's like

2381
01:33:11,520 --> 01:33:19,200
75k a friday night we got the late late show the man with the toys the toy man's in town and he's

2382
01:33:19,200 --> 01:33:25,440
rounding up boys he's got the boys in the back of the reno tonight we're going driving around until

2383
01:33:25,440 --> 01:33:36,400
daylight we're suspended until 12 42 75k what do you do 150k at the public purse we're gonna go to the

2384
01:33:36,400 --> 01:33:44,000
hospital we need a nurse i feel like i've had a heart attack not looking forward and i'm not looking back

2385
01:33:44,080 --> 01:33:51,760
can't wait to go to the public accounts committee we've got two pack is coming and soon he's gonna be

2386
01:33:51,760 --> 01:33:59,920
on laser disc it's a hologram of two pack you don't want him is two packs common it's gonna be nice give

2387
01:33:59,920 --> 01:34:10,080
ryan back his toys tonight shlago spiders thank you kinky john with the five euro two in the average and

2388
01:34:10,080 --> 01:34:17,920
jimmy juices patty and captain sack and big man to roll we got the toys in the back of the reno

2389
01:34:20,000 --> 01:34:27,280
we got a lovely big massive reno a spas we got a load of toys in the back of that we're going driving it

2390
01:34:27,280 --> 01:34:37,040
around town tonight 75k we'll be feeling all right we got the reno cars and we've got noel kelly in the

2391
01:34:37,040 --> 01:34:43,120
the back of the car he's he's rolling up big ones he's doing well he's wearing boot cuts and he's

2392
01:34:43,120 --> 01:34:50,560
feeling swell he's got the boot cut jeans and the leather shoes we've got a load of lovely rules we're

2393
01:34:50,560 --> 01:34:58,480
gonna break them though breaking rules is what we do inside the reno again we got the reno again the reno

2394
01:34:58,480 --> 01:35:05,520
was fast we got papa nicole on your ass they're driving fast tonight they're gonna see everything's all

2395
01:35:05,520 --> 01:35:18,000
right we're going driving in the public committee room number one it's suspended until 12 42 another

2396
01:35:18,000 --> 01:35:26,720
two minutes how do you do hello the people in the viewing gallery loads of papers loads of stuff i'm

2397
01:35:26,720 --> 01:35:29,680
trying to think of what rhymes with gallery

2398
01:35:32,640 --> 01:35:39,200
noel kelly's coming out tonight he's got a load of reno's and he's feeling all right he's got a raker

2399
01:35:39,200 --> 01:35:45,360
reno's in the garage at home you thought they got paid well they don't have a bone don't believe a

2400
01:35:45,360 --> 01:35:53,360
word that the papers say they're making up lies day after day tubs is nothing wrong he wants to sing his

2401
01:35:53,360 --> 01:36:02,320
song every morning on the on the radio playing up to the gallery about a lovely lovely

2402
01:36:02,320 --> 01:36:12,000
salary a 90 brake horsepower available a lovely little car if you drive it well make sure you

2403
01:36:12,000 --> 01:36:18,880
don't leave it in the rain otherwise it'll swell these french cars these french cars aren't the best

2404
01:36:18,880 --> 01:36:24,000
you need to make sure they're out of the fucking rain they're only used to a mediterranean climate

2405
01:36:24,000 --> 01:36:29,840
sure the reno is it's only meant for driving around the south of france you're not gonna do well with a

2406
01:36:29,840 --> 01:36:39,520
theater reno after uh you know what a winter in iran are you joking on the on the license fee

2407
01:36:47,520 --> 01:37:05,200
we've got a lot of questions that need to be asked the answers are coming thick and fast there's a

2408
01:37:05,200 --> 01:37:20,880
solicitor in the background shining in he's got the facts and the details and he's slick with spin he's a

2409
01:37:20,880 --> 01:37:26,880
spin doctor and he's doing his job he's on the public purse like a bit of a schlap there's money

2410
01:37:26,880 --> 01:37:36,560
coming in there's money going out where's it going someone needs to shout stop now we got a lovely bit

2411
01:37:36,560 --> 01:37:38,080
Questioning going on.

2412
01:37:38,680 --> 01:37:41,100
No one's saying anyone's done anything wrong,

2413
01:37:41,200 --> 01:37:45,260
but there's an element, there's an element of shady business.

2414
01:37:47,440 --> 01:37:50,080
Fastway couriers are coming in.

2415
01:37:50,520 --> 01:37:52,520
They've just delivered the tin,

2416
01:37:53,120 --> 01:37:55,580
and it's got a laser disc inside,

2417
01:37:56,160 --> 01:37:59,200
and onside that laser disc job

2418
01:37:59,200 --> 01:38:02,520
is a lovely hologram of Tupac and Bob.

2419
01:38:02,800 --> 01:38:05,260
Who is Bob, you ask?

2420
01:38:05,260 --> 01:38:08,440
It's the man who gave Tupac a mask.

2421
01:38:08,940 --> 01:38:11,060
He's on disc with him as well.

2422
01:38:11,160 --> 01:38:14,040
We're going to see Tubbs talk about that as well.

2423
01:38:14,160 --> 01:38:16,040
It's going to be really nice.

2424
01:38:16,500 --> 01:38:19,940
Make sure you don't miss it tonight, or even today.

2425
01:38:20,140 --> 01:38:23,280
But apparently this will go on till six.

2426
01:38:23,540 --> 01:38:24,780
It's going to be long.

2427
01:38:25,000 --> 01:38:26,080
It'll make you sick.

2428
01:38:26,440 --> 01:38:29,160
We said it before, and we'll see it again.

2429
01:38:30,300 --> 01:38:32,320
75K, it never ends.

2430
01:38:32,320 --> 01:38:35,160
The song keeps going on and on.

2431
01:38:35,160 --> 01:38:36,800
No one shouted stop.

2432
01:38:37,040 --> 01:38:38,240
We've got a song.

2433
01:38:38,540 --> 01:38:41,300
We're going to sing loud and sing it proud.

2434
01:38:41,740 --> 01:38:44,260
Renault did we pass the NCT last week.

2435
01:38:50,260 --> 01:38:52,140
It's 1244, lads.

2436
01:38:52,200 --> 01:38:53,920
Where the fuck are you tonight?

2437
01:38:56,220 --> 01:38:57,520
It's 1244.

2438
01:38:57,760 --> 01:38:59,100
You said you'd be back now.

2439
01:38:59,560 --> 01:39:02,100
What are you doing now, now brown cow?

2440
01:39:02,460 --> 01:39:03,860
You pack a lion bastard.

2441
01:39:04,060 --> 01:39:05,180
We believed you, lads.

2442
01:39:05,480 --> 01:39:08,340
You need to come back, or even run some ads,

2443
01:39:08,440 --> 01:39:09,680
because this is boring.

2444
01:39:09,680 --> 01:39:11,180
Just looking at this screen.

2445
01:39:11,600 --> 01:39:12,720
Committee room one.

2446
01:39:12,780 --> 01:39:14,160
It's like a fever dream.

2447
01:39:14,560 --> 01:39:17,040
The public accounts suspended today.

2448
01:39:17,540 --> 01:39:20,160
We've been here, and we're having our way.

2449
01:39:20,500 --> 01:39:23,020
It's a lovely bit of business, and it's really nice.

2450
01:39:23,120 --> 01:39:24,840
I wonder if this is the...

2451
01:39:24,840 --> 01:39:25,920
When I'm seeing these...

2452
01:39:25,920 --> 01:39:26,440
Oh, we're back.

2453
01:39:26,520 --> 01:39:26,780
We're back.

2454
01:39:28,100 --> 01:39:29,560
Okay, we're back in public session.

2455
01:39:31,760 --> 01:39:34,920
Just in relation to the checking the date in that diary,

2456
01:39:35,640 --> 01:39:37,980
and the meeting with the member,

2457
01:39:38,080 --> 01:39:39,160
which is member Saf and RT.

2458
01:39:39,320 --> 01:39:40,540
Did you clarify that during the break?

2459
01:39:40,540 --> 01:39:42,780
I just get the coffee, sorry.

2460
01:39:43,580 --> 01:39:47,680
And Jim Jennings, who will be head of programming content.

2461
01:39:47,820 --> 01:39:51,420
Alan Tyler is our head of entertainment.

2462
01:39:51,580 --> 01:39:52,060
Is it a date for now?

2463
01:39:52,180 --> 01:39:52,320
Okay.

2464
01:39:52,500 --> 01:39:53,700
Yeah, 6th of March.

2465
01:39:53,960 --> 01:39:54,900
So we had a meeting...

2466
01:39:54,900 --> 01:39:55,840
And the date of the...

2467
01:39:55,840 --> 01:39:56,700
The date of the...

2468
01:39:56,700 --> 01:39:58,020
The date?

2469
01:39:58,020 --> 01:39:59,180
Yes, yes, yes.

2470
01:39:59,620 --> 01:40:00,300
6th of March.

2471
01:40:00,560 --> 01:40:01,720
6th of March was that date.

2472
01:40:01,820 --> 01:40:02,420
Okay, thank you.

2473
01:40:02,860 --> 01:40:04,960
Next committee member is Deputy Verona Murphy.

2474
01:40:05,440 --> 01:40:06,020
Thank you, Chair.

2475
01:40:06,440 --> 01:40:08,640
And just in relation to that meeting, Mr Kelly,

2476
01:40:08,820 --> 01:40:12,460
was the topic Grant Thornton brought up.

2477
01:40:12,720 --> 01:40:13,300
No, thank you.

2478
01:40:13,760 --> 01:40:17,900
The topic was issues around...

2479
01:40:17,900 --> 01:40:21,620
I suppose, well, really, the Late Late Show timings under the start.

2480
01:40:21,880 --> 01:40:24,520
During COVID, the Late Late Show finished at 11 o'clock.

2481
01:40:24,840 --> 01:40:26,360
So the issues were around...

2482
01:40:26,360 --> 01:40:27,680
And I don't mean to cut you off,

2483
01:40:27,760 --> 01:40:30,980
but you're just categorically stating that there wasn't a discussion.

2484
01:40:30,980 --> 01:40:31,820
Yes, yes, yes.

2485
01:40:31,840 --> 01:40:32,620
Sorry, sorry, sorry.

2486
01:40:32,840 --> 01:40:35,340
Yeah, no, it was very much about issues around the Late Late Show

2487
01:40:35,340 --> 01:40:37,300
and trying to finish it earlier, et cetera.

2488
01:40:37,560 --> 01:40:38,400
Okay, thank you.

2489
01:40:38,400 --> 01:40:43,980
But it does seem a bit odd that you'd have been having that discussion,

2490
01:40:44,120 --> 01:40:47,000
given Mr Tuberty's resignation.

2491
01:40:47,880 --> 01:40:49,600
Or was it just for the remaining shows?

2492
01:40:50,100 --> 01:40:51,360
No, it was before.

2493
01:40:52,040 --> 01:40:52,600
It was before.

2494
01:40:52,820 --> 01:40:54,760
And it wasn't related to it.

2495
01:40:55,640 --> 01:40:55,940
Okay.

2496
01:40:56,160 --> 01:40:56,780
Maybe you...

2497
01:40:56,780 --> 01:40:58,100
Do you want to talk about...

2498
01:40:58,100 --> 01:40:58,720
Well, no.

2499
01:40:59,180 --> 01:41:00,260
Were you at that meeting?

2500
01:41:00,520 --> 01:41:01,180
Yes, I was, yeah.

2501
01:41:01,320 --> 01:41:02,040
Okay, okay.

2502
01:41:02,040 --> 01:41:06,240
But it had nothing to do as you're categorically saying there was no discussion.

2503
01:41:06,460 --> 01:41:08,960
Deputy Murphy, like I said at the statement at the outset,

2504
01:41:09,180 --> 01:41:12,260
it was one of the untruths I really, really wanted to clear up here today.

2505
01:41:12,920 --> 01:41:18,160
And there was no, no, no connection between this fiasco

2506
01:41:18,160 --> 01:41:20,120
and my departure from the Late Late Show.

2507
01:41:20,180 --> 01:41:20,640
I promise you.

2508
01:41:20,720 --> 01:41:23,240
So you'll have watched all of the previous engagements.

2509
01:41:23,620 --> 01:41:26,620
So is it your view, Mr Tuberty?

2510
01:41:27,140 --> 01:41:27,800
And it's hard...

2511
01:41:27,800 --> 01:41:28,800
Like, I don't know...

2512
01:41:28,800 --> 01:41:31,280
Like, look, for a start, I'd like to say you're welcome here.

2513
01:41:31,420 --> 01:41:31,920
Thank you for that.

2514
01:41:31,920 --> 01:41:34,340
And it's nice that you came without having to be compelled.

2515
01:41:34,480 --> 01:41:34,860
Thank you.

2516
01:41:34,860 --> 01:41:35,280
But I think...

2517
01:41:35,280 --> 01:41:36,080
Thanks very much, lads.

2518
01:41:36,100 --> 01:41:38,500
It's not that anybody knows how to address you

2519
01:41:38,500 --> 01:41:39,380
because we're so...

2520
01:41:39,380 --> 01:41:40,680
Everybody feels they know you.

2521
01:41:40,680 --> 01:41:41,820
I know, I prefer if you come in, Ryan,

2522
01:41:41,900 --> 01:41:43,480
but I understand that's not the nature of it.

2523
01:41:43,500 --> 01:41:44,380
Well, it's like when you call me deputy.

2524
01:41:44,460 --> 01:41:44,680
Okay.

2525
01:41:44,700 --> 01:41:46,540
But even all that aside, it's superfluous.

2526
01:41:46,640 --> 01:41:47,920
But the reality is this.

2527
01:41:48,340 --> 01:41:51,380
You will have seen Mr Adrian Lynch,

2528
01:41:51,380 --> 01:41:54,620
who was the interim director general,

2529
01:41:54,780 --> 01:42:00,220
say that it was possible that you did know pre-year announcement.

2530
01:42:00,260 --> 01:42:01,300
Yes, that's very unfortunate.

2531
01:42:01,820 --> 01:42:03,820
And do you feel, is it your view then...

2532
01:42:03,820 --> 01:42:04,560
Nintendo Game Boy!

2533
01:42:04,740 --> 01:42:08,040
...that Mr Lynch threw you under the bus with that connotation?

2534
01:42:08,660 --> 01:42:11,900
Mr Lynch is entitled to his conjecture.

2535
01:42:12,340 --> 01:42:14,440
Don't obsess with me all the time.

2536
01:42:14,740 --> 01:42:14,960
Okay.

2537
01:42:16,340 --> 01:42:18,120
Well, let me move to your statement

2538
01:42:18,120 --> 01:42:22,120
because you have outlined seven untruths.

2539
01:42:22,740 --> 01:42:26,300
And to be fair, you've come here to give your side of the story

2540
01:42:26,300 --> 01:42:28,120
and we as deputies need to hear...

2541
01:42:28,860 --> 01:42:29,760
Tupac, Tupac, Tupac, Tupac,

2542
01:42:29,760 --> 01:42:29,760
Tupac, Tupac, Tupac, Tupac, Tupac, Tupac, Tupac, Tupac, Tupac, Tupac, Tupac, Tupac, Tupac, Tupac, Tupac, Tupac, Tupac, Tupac, Tupac, Tupac, Tupac, Tupac, Tupac, Tupac, Tupac, Tupac, Tupac, Tupac, Tupac, Tupac, Tupac, Tupac, Tupac, Tupac, Tupac, Tupac, Tupac, Tupac, Tupac, Tupac, Tupac, Tupac, Tupac, Tupac, Tupac, Tupac, Tupac, Tupac, Tupac, Tupac, T

2543
01:42:29,760 --> 01:42:36,560
Thanks very much. Did he throw them under the bus? And was the bus a Renault minibus?

2544
01:42:36,560 --> 01:42:43,240
What I'd just like to ask you, is it your view? Sorry, do we have one more time? And was it...

2545
01:42:43,240 --> 01:42:53,360
Did he throw them under the bus? And what's more, was it a Renault minibus? Oh, fuck, do it again, sorry.

2546
01:42:53,360 --> 01:43:18,960
The main questions I believe need to be answered are: Did Ryan throw Arty under the bus? And was it a Renault minibus? Was the bus that... Did they throw him under the bus? Or did he throw them under the bus? And what was the make of the bus? Was it a Renault?

2547
01:43:18,960 --> 01:43:22,300
maybe no one has something

2548
01:43:22,300 --> 01:43:23,500
applause

2549
01:43:23,500 --> 01:43:25,500
applause

2550
01:43:25,500 --> 01:43:27,440
applause

2551
01:43:27,440 --> 01:43:30,060
applause

2552
01:43:30,060 --> 01:43:32,220
applause

2553
01:43:32,220 --> 01:43:33,220
applause

2554
01:43:33,220 --> 01:43:35,220
applause

2555
01:43:35,220 --> 01:43:36,220
applause

2556
01:43:36,220 --> 01:43:37,220
applause

2557
01:43:37,220 --> 01:43:38,220
applause

2558
01:43:38,220 --> 01:43:39,220
applause

2559
01:43:39,220 --> 01:43:40,140
applause

2560
01:43:40,140 --> 01:43:42,740
I just sat down and said, what is that, what is this?

2561
01:43:43,260 --> 01:43:44,620
It's all there, it would have been explained

2562
01:43:44,620 --> 01:43:48,020
the 120,000, there was no 120,000

2563
01:43:48,020 --> 01:43:50,660
and on and on and on. Just in your case

2564
01:43:50,660 --> 01:43:52,880
Mr Kelly, at some point Mr Collins

2565
01:43:52,880 --> 01:43:54,040
was being asked

2566
01:43:54,040 --> 01:43:56,860
in relation to why he did

2567
01:43:56,860 --> 01:43:58,540
not ask questions

2568
01:43:58,540 --> 01:44:00,740
with regard to the invoices being

2569
01:44:00,740 --> 01:44:03,140
raised with consultancy

2570
01:44:03,140 --> 01:44:04,800
fees as the

2571
01:44:04,800 --> 01:44:06,880
description. He said that

2572
01:44:06,880 --> 01:44:08,780
because, and I don't want to

2573
01:44:08,780 --> 01:44:10,460
misquote, but the

2574
01:44:10,460 --> 01:44:13,100
inclination, the intimation was that yourself

2575
01:44:13,100 --> 01:44:14,800
and Dee Forbes had a

2576
01:44:14,800 --> 01:44:17,080
particularly, he was aware that you had a

2577
01:44:17,080 --> 01:44:18,940
particular report. I really need to see

2578
01:44:18,940 --> 01:44:21,840
really need to see that photograph

2579
01:44:21,840 --> 01:44:23,540
that had me honestly

2580
01:44:23,540 --> 01:44:25,440
nearly pissed myself

2581
01:44:25,440 --> 01:44:27,620
when I woke up and seen that this morning

2582
01:44:27,620 --> 01:44:28,820
and I've lost the image.

2583
01:44:29,260 --> 01:44:31,220
Somebody in the chat said they've got the image.

2584
01:44:31,500 --> 01:44:32,980
I don't know how to get that.

2585
01:44:33,220 --> 01:44:35,260
If anybody can direct me towards that image

2586
01:44:35,260 --> 01:44:38,620
because that would really, that'll boost me

2587
01:44:38,620 --> 01:44:41,720
send me right flying to the roof

2588
01:44:41,720 --> 01:44:42,260
that will.

2589
01:44:42,260 --> 01:44:45,780
You then, do you believe that he intended to deceive this committee?

2590
01:44:46,460 --> 01:44:48,660
I honestly can't say. I don't know.

2591
01:44:48,960 --> 01:44:52,000
And to be honest with you, like there was so many untruths.

2592
01:44:52,360 --> 01:44:54,100
I just had to stop looking and listening.

2593
01:44:54,820 --> 01:44:56,760
You know, we were under siege.

2594
01:44:57,120 --> 01:44:58,200
Like unreal, unreal.

2595
01:44:58,760 --> 01:45:01,360
Well, I think clearly from the notes we've received,

2596
01:45:01,500 --> 01:45:03,320
and I know we received them late this morning,

2597
01:45:03,400 --> 01:45:04,560
they're quite comprehensive.

2598
01:45:04,900 --> 01:45:07,740
in discarding what you believe to be untruths.

2599
01:45:08,380 --> 01:45:09,760
Like your definition,

2600
01:45:09,920 --> 01:45:11,860
my definition of an untruth is a lie.

2601
01:45:12,340 --> 01:45:12,880
It's a lie.

2602
01:45:13,200 --> 01:45:14,600
If it's not true, it's a lie.

2603
01:45:15,000 --> 01:45:18,260
So, are you able to say in your view

2604
01:45:18,260 --> 01:45:19,980
that RTE lied

2605
01:45:19,980 --> 01:45:22,980
to this committee

2606
01:45:22,980 --> 01:45:25,240
and those representing them?

2607
01:45:25,980 --> 01:45:27,460
Well, as you said, they were untruths.

2608
01:45:28,060 --> 01:45:28,780
Well, I think that...

2609
01:45:28,780 --> 01:45:29,500
Be careful with language.

2610
01:45:29,580 --> 01:45:31,680
Well, I think I don't need to be careful, Chair,

2611
01:45:31,760 --> 01:45:35,980
because the definition of an untruth is...

2612
01:45:35,980 --> 01:45:37,220
See, we should answer that, Mr Kelly.

2613
01:45:37,560 --> 01:45:39,000
Is that the best you can come up with?

2614
01:45:40,100 --> 01:45:41,500
I think there's been a lot of lies.

2615
01:45:43,080 --> 01:45:44,240
Intentional or not, I don't know.

2616
01:45:44,680 --> 01:45:45,880
Sorry, can you just repeat that again?

2617
01:45:46,140 --> 01:45:47,620
I think there's been a lot of lies,

2618
01:45:47,820 --> 01:45:49,060
and that's why we're here.

2619
01:45:49,500 --> 01:45:50,880
Intentional or not, I don't know.

2620
01:45:51,660 --> 01:45:54,180
Like, again, I don't know half of these people.

2621
01:45:54,180 --> 01:45:57,200
I've barely met them.

2622
01:45:57,700 --> 01:45:59,360
Would it be fair to say that,

2623
01:45:59,860 --> 01:46:03,220
given that we've outlined our side of the story today,

2624
01:46:03,780 --> 01:46:06,200
I would love the people to decide

2625
01:46:06,200 --> 01:46:09,140
what the definition of a truth or mistruth or a lie is,

2626
01:46:09,260 --> 01:46:12,400
in the sense that I would hope that they see some...

2627
01:46:12,400 --> 01:46:13,380
They get some clarity today.

2628
01:46:13,720 --> 01:46:15,920
On that, Mr. Trubbity, do you and...

2629
01:46:15,920 --> 01:46:17,760
Has there been pre-litigation?

2630
01:46:18,160 --> 01:46:20,380
We need to open up a discussion on a camera,

2631
01:46:20,380 --> 01:46:21,720
and say, I should only have an account.

2632
01:46:21,720 --> 01:46:23,960
The circumstances have not been dealt with.

2633
01:46:23,960 --> 01:46:24,880
We have in the dialogue.

2634
01:46:25,060 --> 01:46:25,980
A wider conversation.

2635
01:46:25,980 --> 01:46:26,800
That's a fraternity.

2636
01:46:26,980 --> 01:46:27,580
Yes, you have.

2637
01:46:27,740 --> 01:46:28,480
No, thank you.

2638
01:46:28,580 --> 01:46:31,420
And I just want to clarify...

2639
01:46:31,420 --> 01:46:36,120
To include those who may not need to be considered.

2640
01:46:36,220 --> 01:46:37,420
We're not looking at a decision.

2641
01:46:37,420 --> 01:46:38,020
Within the context.

2642
01:46:38,140 --> 01:46:38,980
Take into context.

2643
01:46:38,980 --> 01:46:39,980
Contextual context.

2644
01:46:40,760 --> 01:46:41,980
Is everybody being heard?

2645
01:46:42,060 --> 01:46:43,400
I'm not saying you're an idiot.

2646
01:46:43,720 --> 01:46:44,940
Some people have been marginalized.

2647
01:46:45,380 --> 01:46:46,000
Who's doing what?

2648
01:46:46,060 --> 01:46:48,600
Everyone needs to be heard, even the idiots.

2649
01:46:48,600 --> 01:46:50,420
We need to get to a level playing field.

2650
01:46:50,480 --> 01:46:52,060
Especially the idiots.

2651
01:46:52,060 --> 01:46:53,200
I can't say that.

2652
01:46:53,400 --> 01:46:54,580
What I'm saying is...

2653
01:46:54,580 --> 01:46:55,780
They're being antagonistic.

2654
01:46:56,040 --> 01:46:57,200
I don't like your tone.

2655
01:46:57,400 --> 01:46:58,040
What's a discourse?

2656
01:46:58,440 --> 01:46:59,660
We will say that.

2657
01:46:59,800 --> 01:47:00,540
Who's saying what?

2658
01:47:00,620 --> 01:47:01,900
What matters is...

2659
01:47:01,900 --> 01:47:03,820
The debate has transcended many forums.

2660
01:47:04,000 --> 01:47:05,660
What matters is...

2661
01:47:05,660 --> 01:47:06,640
You're being a cunt.

2662
01:47:06,880 --> 01:47:08,040
You would say that.

2663
01:47:08,160 --> 01:47:08,940
It's not right.

2664
01:47:09,160 --> 01:47:10,600
Everyone needs to be heard in this.

2665
01:47:10,760 --> 01:47:11,880
It's not just you and me.

2666
01:47:12,060 --> 01:47:13,120
It's not referendum.

2667
01:47:13,500 --> 01:47:14,420
It's referenda.

2668
01:47:14,660 --> 01:47:16,360
You're not fucking listening to me.

2669
01:47:16,460 --> 01:47:17,040
It's not right.

2670
01:47:17,200 --> 01:47:20,660
This is a topic fraught with danger and intrepidation.

2671
01:47:20,860 --> 01:47:21,900
We'll go around in circles.

2672
01:47:22,300 --> 01:47:23,880
Don't take that tone with me.

2673
01:47:24,080 --> 01:47:26,620
There needs to be an open-ended debate about this.

2674
01:47:26,820 --> 01:47:27,680
Oh dear.

2675
01:47:28,020 --> 01:47:29,180
We're supposed to say what?

2676
01:47:29,380 --> 01:47:30,780
Say that to me every week.

2677
01:47:30,780 --> 01:47:31,160
Lovely.

2678
01:47:31,360 --> 01:47:32,480
It's not just all of us.

2679
01:47:32,580 --> 01:47:33,860
Everyone needs to be heard.

2680
01:47:34,120 --> 01:47:34,980
The commercial relationship.

2681
01:47:35,680 --> 01:47:36,160
Papers.

2682
01:47:36,160 --> 01:47:37,500
The 75,000 commercial relationship.

2683
01:47:37,500 --> 01:47:38,740
Papers are being ruffled.

2684
01:47:39,400 --> 01:47:41,600
There's an air of panic in the room.

2685
01:47:41,800 --> 01:47:43,180
A man has left his chair.

2686
01:47:44,120 --> 01:47:44,800
That's two-pack.

2687
01:47:44,920 --> 01:47:47,540
Fastway couriers have just arrived.

2688
01:47:47,700 --> 01:47:49,240
That fellow is going out to get the package.

2689
01:47:49,660 --> 01:47:51,600
I'm trying in my head.

2690
01:47:52,160 --> 01:47:53,340
Kieran, thank you very much.

2691
01:47:53,420 --> 01:47:54,960
Hideo Kojima's subconscious.

2692
01:47:55,180 --> 01:47:56,000
Thank you very much.

2693
01:47:57,100 --> 01:47:59,500
That you say RTE came up with the plan,

2694
01:47:59,820 --> 01:48:02,560
the scheme to give 75,000.

2695
01:48:02,860 --> 01:48:04,660
Like, what gave rise to it?

2696
01:48:04,660 --> 01:48:12,040
So, the sponsor, RTE's probably biggest sponsor,

2697
01:48:12,540 --> 01:48:16,320
and RTE wanted these events.

2698
01:48:16,420 --> 01:48:17,980
So they came with the idea of the events,

2699
01:48:18,180 --> 01:48:20,080
where they'd happen, when they'd happen,

2700
01:48:20,660 --> 01:48:21,900
mini late, late, roadshow,

2701
01:48:21,980 --> 01:48:23,900
Ryan Troubley, Renault associations.

2702
01:48:24,600 --> 01:48:26,240
Okay, so RTE.

2703
01:48:26,560 --> 01:48:27,440
Completely separate,

2704
01:48:27,880 --> 01:48:31,320
completely separate to the contract.

2705
01:48:31,940 --> 01:48:32,180
Okay.

2706
01:48:32,300 --> 01:48:33,880
To Ryan's radio and TV contract.

2707
01:48:34,400 --> 01:48:35,440
We, I'm sorry,

2708
01:48:35,520 --> 01:48:38,500
and the first three were done in year three

2709
01:48:38,500 --> 01:48:39,240
because of COVID,

2710
01:48:39,480 --> 01:48:41,200
and then obviously this contractually,

2711
01:48:41,320 --> 01:48:42,600
it's still a number of six hours.

2712
01:48:42,600 --> 01:48:43,640
Okay, we have the image.

2713
01:48:43,660 --> 01:48:45,280
So was it the position that had that?

2714
01:48:45,280 --> 01:48:46,800
We have the image, everybody.

2715
01:48:46,940 --> 01:48:48,200
This is the one that shocked me,

2716
01:48:48,200 --> 01:48:52,520
and it's because somebody has obviously pointed out that,

2717
01:48:52,840 --> 01:48:55,240
Tommy, Tommy, are you there, Tom?

2718
01:48:56,300 --> 01:48:57,900
I am, yeah, what's going on?

2719
01:48:59,760 --> 01:49:01,720
It's your man Jack in my style, is it?

2720
01:49:02,800 --> 01:49:06,780
It's an image of Noel Kelly Jack in your style,

2721
01:49:06,920 --> 01:49:08,460
and what's more,

2722
01:49:08,600 --> 01:49:10,440
it's an image of Noel Kelly Jack in your style

2723
01:49:10,440 --> 01:49:11,940
with Ryan Troubley's face,

2724
01:49:12,340 --> 01:49:14,120
but for some reason or other,

2725
01:49:14,860 --> 01:49:18,220
when you put Noel Kelly's face on Ryan Troubley,

2726
01:49:18,360 --> 01:49:21,720
or if you put Ryan Troubley's face on Noel Kelly's head,

2727
01:49:21,820 --> 01:49:25,260
he looks even more like you, Tom.

2728
01:49:27,060 --> 01:49:28,080
I don't believe it,

2729
01:49:28,820 --> 01:49:29,800
and I won't believe it,

2730
01:49:30,000 --> 01:49:31,100
until I see it.

2731
01:49:31,780 --> 01:49:35,280
Would you see it actually?

2732
01:49:36,280 --> 01:49:37,900
So if I can just explain.

2733
01:49:40,280 --> 01:49:43,340
So the invoices were made at Arshtis,

2734
01:49:43,460 --> 01:49:44,420
they were directly emailed.

2735
01:49:44,420 --> 01:49:45,640
Trying to get that image now,

2736
01:49:45,720 --> 01:49:46,260
let's see this.

2737
01:49:46,360 --> 01:49:47,800
This is Tubbs and Tiles,

2738
01:49:47,920 --> 01:49:48,480
thanks very much,

2739
01:49:48,540 --> 01:49:49,380
and Papa Farron,

2740
01:49:49,380 --> 01:49:50,640
and Ciaran,

2741
01:49:50,720 --> 01:49:51,260
thank you very much.

2742
01:49:51,400 --> 01:49:52,260
Papa Farron,

2743
01:49:52,340 --> 01:49:54,660
who has just delivered the image to us,

2744
01:49:55,280 --> 01:49:57,060
it's from Twitter.

2745
01:49:57,220 --> 01:49:57,860
But why she would,

2746
01:49:58,360 --> 01:49:58,600
sorry,

2747
01:49:58,660 --> 01:49:59,940
why she would enter into an agreement.

2748
01:50:00,100 --> 01:50:01,620
How do we get this fucking thing up here?

2749
01:50:01,620 --> 01:50:01,960
Why she,

2750
01:50:02,120 --> 01:50:02,860
first of all,

2751
01:50:02,900 --> 01:50:03,420
gave a guarantee,

2752
01:50:03,820 --> 01:50:05,580
and what was at the back of.

2753
01:50:05,720 --> 01:50:06,220
We're going overtime.

2754
01:50:06,560 --> 01:50:07,560
Just answer your question.

2755
01:50:07,620 --> 01:50:07,800
I mean,

2756
01:50:07,860 --> 01:50:08,240
essentially,

2757
01:50:08,360 --> 01:50:10,040
that was in case the sponsor,

2758
01:50:10,180 --> 01:50:10,300
again,

2759
01:50:10,360 --> 01:50:11,780
the sponsor relation is with RTA,

2760
01:50:11,920 --> 01:50:12,400
now with us,

2761
01:50:12,800 --> 01:50:13,260
and for me,

2762
01:50:13,340 --> 01:50:14,220
what that was about was,

2763
01:50:14,380 --> 01:50:15,720
if there was a new sponsor in,

2764
01:50:16,180 --> 01:50:17,980
that during the duration of the contract,

2765
01:50:18,400 --> 01:50:22,560
that we would be able to work with the next sponsor.

2766
01:50:23,360 --> 01:50:24,700
But it was never an RTE payment.

2767
01:50:24,820 --> 01:50:25,320
It was Renault,

2768
01:50:25,360 --> 01:50:27,120
and Renault were always paying the invoice.

2769
01:50:27,220 --> 01:50:29,000
It was never meant to be RTE to pay this,

2770
01:50:29,180 --> 01:50:29,440
ever.

2771
01:50:30,080 --> 01:50:31,580
I just put to receive it back in terms of...

2772
01:50:31,580 --> 01:50:33,140
I can't get the fucking thing on the screen.

2773
01:50:33,500 --> 01:50:35,340
the benefit of that $75,000.

2774
01:50:35,780 --> 01:50:36,080
But,

2775
01:50:36,360 --> 01:50:37,080
you've contradicted,

2776
01:50:37,180 --> 01:50:37,420
by the way,

2777
01:50:37,480 --> 01:50:38,700
what Dee Forbes has told us

2778
01:50:38,700 --> 01:50:40,500
in the Public Accounts Committee previously,

2779
01:50:40,920 --> 01:50:42,100
back over the last few years,

2780
01:50:42,640 --> 01:50:46,320
that the reason that they had to pay these fees

2781
01:50:46,320 --> 01:50:48,420
is because the talent,

2782
01:50:48,640 --> 01:50:49,000
the stars,

2783
01:50:49,100 --> 01:50:49,500
would walk.

2784
01:50:50,220 --> 01:50:51,660
But I don't want to divert to that.

2785
01:50:51,740 --> 01:50:52,380
Deputy Alan Dillon,

2786
01:50:52,620 --> 01:50:53,000
10 minutes.

2787
01:50:54,000 --> 01:50:54,160
Yeah,

2788
01:50:54,340 --> 01:50:55,480
thanks very much,

2789
01:50:55,840 --> 01:50:57,440
and I'd like to welcome our witnesses

2790
01:50:57,440 --> 01:50:58,560
joining us today,

2791
01:50:58,640 --> 01:50:59,520
and thanks for being here.

2792
01:51:00,680 --> 01:51:01,380
Mr Kelly,

2793
01:51:01,580 --> 01:51:03,860
you said today that Mr Tuberty

2794
01:51:03,860 --> 01:51:05,640
is being made the poster boy

2795
01:51:05,640 --> 01:51:07,460
for this payment scandal.

2796
01:51:07,840 --> 01:51:08,680
The toy man.

2797
01:51:08,780 --> 01:51:09,560
The toy man.

2798
01:51:10,100 --> 01:51:10,820
Why is that the case?

2799
01:51:11,720 --> 01:51:11,920
Well,

2800
01:51:12,000 --> 01:51:13,060
intentionally and unintentionally,

2801
01:51:13,200 --> 01:51:14,860
as I said,

2802
01:51:15,040 --> 01:51:18,260
when the board in RTE released the statement,

2803
01:51:18,820 --> 01:51:20,300
without consulting us,

2804
01:51:20,360 --> 01:51:21,340
just having to ask for it,

2805
01:51:21,480 --> 01:51:22,420
and then not acknowledging

2806
01:51:22,420 --> 01:51:23,560
that there was no wrongdoing,

2807
01:51:23,880 --> 01:51:24,720
taking him off air,

2808
01:51:25,640 --> 01:51:27,960
then he was the face of it.

2809
01:51:28,720 --> 01:51:29,040
Do you?

2810
01:51:29,040 --> 01:51:31,380
And that's where it started,

2811
01:51:31,560 --> 01:51:34,060
and it's been working in its own vacuum

2812
01:51:34,060 --> 01:51:36,000
for the last two and a half weeks,

2813
01:51:36,180 --> 01:51:38,000
where that's why we wanted to come in,

2814
01:51:38,380 --> 01:51:39,260
we want to talk to you,

2815
01:51:39,280 --> 01:51:40,680
we want to tell you everything that we know,

2816
01:51:41,000 --> 01:51:42,940
because it's been very hard looking at

2817
01:51:42,940 --> 01:51:45,560
so many untruths,

2818
01:51:45,740 --> 01:51:46,680
deputies being told.

2819
01:51:46,820 --> 01:51:48,580
Do you accept responsibility

2820
01:51:48,580 --> 01:51:50,700
that your actions have been...

2821
01:51:50,700 --> 01:51:51,440
What's going on here?

2822
01:51:51,540 --> 01:51:52,860
Have you got the image or what?

2823
01:51:53,820 --> 01:51:54,500
It's here,

2824
01:51:54,500 --> 01:51:54,800
Tom,

2825
01:51:54,880 --> 01:51:55,380
it's about to,

2826
01:51:55,380 --> 01:51:56,660
I'm about to drop it live here,

2827
01:51:56,740 --> 01:51:57,320
so this is

2828
01:51:57,320 --> 01:51:59,840
definitive proof

2829
01:51:59,840 --> 01:52:00,960
that Noel Kelly

2830
01:52:00,960 --> 01:52:03,020
was jacking the style

2831
01:52:03,020 --> 01:52:03,840
of Tommy,

2832
01:52:04,000 --> 01:52:04,480
my uncle,

2833
01:52:04,740 --> 01:52:07,140
and trying to get away with that.

2834
01:52:07,500 --> 01:52:08,760
And not only that,

2835
01:52:08,880 --> 01:52:11,060
that if you put Brian Turley's face

2836
01:52:11,060 --> 01:52:12,780
on Noel Kelly's head,

2837
01:52:12,920 --> 01:52:13,720
then it's,

2838
01:52:13,720 --> 01:52:15,200
it's even more sluggish,

2839
01:52:15,340 --> 01:52:16,660
it's even more sluggish

2840
01:52:16,660 --> 01:52:17,840
than you slug.

2841
01:52:18,260 --> 01:52:19,340
In relation to...

2842
01:52:19,340 --> 01:52:20,120
I don't believe it.

2843
01:52:20,240 --> 01:52:21,740
I won't believe until I see it.

2844
01:52:22,160 --> 01:52:22,540
Completely.

2845
01:52:23,060 --> 01:52:24,560
And does it not take two to tango,

2846
01:52:24,920 --> 01:52:25,340
Mr. Kelly?

2847
01:52:26,200 --> 01:52:27,760
But we were just following process.

2848
01:52:27,980 --> 01:52:29,020
We were just working

2849
01:52:29,020 --> 01:52:30,240
under instructions for more to you.

2850
01:52:30,280 --> 01:52:31,940
Okay, so does it suit you

2851
01:52:31,940 --> 01:52:34,320
and your client to keep things...

2852
01:52:34,320 --> 01:52:35,160
There we have it, look.

2853
01:52:35,460 --> 01:52:37,120
I don't want to scare anyone.

2854
01:52:38,220 --> 01:52:39,680
But it starts here.

2855
01:52:40,000 --> 01:52:41,580
And we work our way up.

2856
01:52:41,580 --> 01:52:43,200
When things become difficult,

2857
01:52:43,420 --> 01:52:43,580
you can...

2858
01:52:44,400 --> 01:52:45,880
We work our way up here.

2859
01:52:46,740 --> 01:52:47,500
I think that's what's happening.

2860
01:52:47,780 --> 01:52:48,320
That's what's happened.

2861
01:52:49,180 --> 01:52:49,920
Look at that.

2862
01:52:50,000 --> 01:52:51,160
That's pure Tommy slug

2863
01:52:51,160 --> 01:52:52,180
if ever I've seen it.

2864
01:52:54,040 --> 01:52:55,280
Absolute style, jackal.

2865
01:52:56,980 --> 01:52:57,880
Let's see the face.

2866
01:52:59,060 --> 01:52:59,960
He doesn't look as good

2867
01:52:59,960 --> 01:53:01,200
as me in the face, though, does he?

2868
01:53:02,780 --> 01:53:03,820
We've yet to see it.

2869
01:53:03,860 --> 01:53:04,460
Let's have a look.

2870
01:53:06,980 --> 01:53:08,000
Actually, we might just get

2871
01:53:08,000 --> 01:53:09,080
a bit of ominous music

2872
01:53:09,080 --> 01:53:09,900
for this as well,

2873
01:53:10,000 --> 01:53:10,900
if we can.

2874
01:53:12,840 --> 01:53:14,220
The top ten, three,

2875
01:53:14,220 --> 01:53:16,060
that's all.

2876
01:53:16,940 --> 01:53:17,860
There's another agent

2877
01:53:17,860 --> 01:53:19,480
that represents the other seven.

2878
01:53:20,740 --> 01:53:22,100
So, in relation to the

2879
01:53:22,100 --> 01:53:23,480
raising of the invoices

2880
01:53:23,480 --> 01:53:25,700
described for consultancy fees,

2881
01:53:25,980 --> 01:53:27,180
I just want to clear up this matter.

2882
01:53:27,940 --> 01:53:28,780
You stated previously

2883
01:53:28,780 --> 01:53:29,800
that Geraldine O'Leary

2884
01:53:29,800 --> 01:53:31,100
and RT were responsible.

2885
01:53:31,600 --> 01:53:31,860
Yes.

2886
01:53:32,520 --> 01:53:33,080
How is that?

2887
01:53:34,040 --> 01:53:35,640
Because it was under instruction

2888
01:53:35,640 --> 01:53:36,320
from them.

2889
01:53:36,380 --> 01:53:37,620
He's got a phone and a wallet.

2890
01:53:37,940 --> 01:53:38,580
Because, again,

2891
01:53:38,640 --> 01:53:40,260
the relationship with RT is with...

2892
01:53:40,260 --> 01:53:40,920
It's with Rena.

2893
01:53:41,000 --> 01:53:42,100
We have nothing to do with Rena.

2894
01:53:42,560 --> 01:53:43,720
So, Mr. Kelly,

2895
01:53:43,940 --> 01:53:45,540
you were following instruction.

2896
01:53:45,840 --> 01:53:46,060
Yes.

2897
01:53:46,140 --> 01:53:46,440
Therefore,

2898
01:53:47,240 --> 01:53:50,460
did you collude with RT in a falsehood

2899
01:53:50,460 --> 01:53:52,860
of concealment of them invoices

2900
01:53:52,860 --> 01:53:55,540
by labelling them consultancy fees?

2901
01:53:57,400 --> 01:53:58,700
That's a straightforward question,

2902
01:53:58,920 --> 01:53:59,320
Mr. Kelly.

2903
01:54:00,440 --> 01:54:01,740
I'm sorry, could you just...

2904
01:54:02,820 --> 01:54:04,160
Are you doing a bit of barter,

2905
01:54:04,240 --> 01:54:04,660
I call them?

2906
01:54:04,700 --> 01:54:04,920
Yes.

2907
01:54:05,180 --> 01:54:05,380
Okay.

2908
01:54:05,880 --> 01:54:06,560
So, therefore,

2909
01:54:07,560 --> 01:54:10,120
did you collude with RT in a falsehood

2910
01:54:10,120 --> 01:54:11,640
of concealment

2911
01:54:11,640 --> 01:54:13,620
by describing them invoices for...

2912
01:54:13,620 --> 01:54:14,580
Are you doing a bit of video?

2913
01:54:15,580 --> 01:54:17,740
Um, I said that...

2914
01:54:17,740 --> 01:54:18,500
Are you doing a bit of...

2915
01:54:18,500 --> 01:54:18,740
Are you doing a bit of...

2916
01:54:18,740 --> 01:54:20,380
...in secret to suppress...

2917
01:54:20,380 --> 01:54:21,540
Are you doing a bit of barter,

2918
01:54:21,660 --> 01:54:21,980
I call them?

2919
01:54:21,980 --> 01:54:23,280
...in secret to county practices?

2920
01:54:23,640 --> 01:54:24,480
And we certainly did...

2921
01:54:24,480 --> 01:54:25,960
Are you doing a bit of reno-ization,

2922
01:54:26,120 --> 01:54:26,320
I'm saying?

2923
01:54:26,700 --> 01:54:28,080
But you followed instructions...

2924
01:54:28,080 --> 01:54:29,420
Are you doing a bit of reno, yeah?

2925
01:54:30,080 --> 01:54:31,380
Larve bells were never...

2926
01:54:31,380 --> 01:54:32,000
That's my thing.

2927
01:54:32,280 --> 01:54:32,840
...amongst you,

2928
01:54:33,480 --> 01:54:34,460
representing your client

2929
01:54:34,460 --> 01:54:35,420
in relation to these invoices.

2930
01:54:35,420 --> 01:54:35,640
Sure.

2931
01:54:36,040 --> 01:54:36,760
Again, as I said,

2932
01:54:37,160 --> 01:54:38,640
we're a small company of eight people.

2933
01:54:40,000 --> 01:54:40,600
They've three...

2934
01:54:40,600 --> 01:54:40,960
They're...

2935
01:54:40,960 --> 01:54:41,860
They're massive.

2936
01:54:41,860 --> 01:54:42,800
What do you think of that, Tom?

2937
01:54:42,800 --> 01:54:43,680
They've auditors,

2938
01:54:43,820 --> 01:54:44,360
they've lawyers.

2939
01:54:44,480 --> 01:54:45,420
But just in relation to...

2940
01:54:45,420 --> 01:54:47,260
I'm shocked, I'm scared,

2941
01:54:47,520 --> 01:54:49,580
I don't know what to really make of that,

2942
01:54:49,720 --> 01:54:50,900
but it was very...

2943
01:54:50,900 --> 01:54:51,600
It was a trip.

2944
01:54:52,220 --> 01:54:53,680
I'd rather not go on it again,

2945
01:54:53,780 --> 01:54:54,480
if you don't mind.

2946
01:54:54,620 --> 01:54:55,840
Defrauding the taxpayer.

2947
01:54:56,140 --> 01:54:58,220
I'm afraid we will have to say it once more.

2948
01:54:58,600 --> 01:54:59,100
I didn't...

2949
01:54:59,100 --> 01:55:00,980
I didn't even hear that he'd said that again.

2950
01:55:01,360 --> 01:55:03,800
Do you still see these invoices

2951
01:55:03,800 --> 01:55:05,800
related to consultancy fees?

2952
01:55:06,920 --> 01:55:08,920
These invoices were as instructed.

2953
01:55:09,420 --> 01:55:10,160
As instructed.

2954
01:55:10,160 --> 01:55:11,160
And what were they for?

2955
01:55:11,260 --> 01:55:11,980
What was the nature of it?

2956
01:55:11,980 --> 01:55:13,360
They were four...

2957
01:55:13,360 --> 01:55:14,440
Three...

2958
01:55:14,440 --> 01:55:15,720
Minimum of three...

2959
01:55:15,720 --> 01:55:16,300
Late, late shows.

2960
01:55:16,300 --> 01:55:18,400
Did they describe what they were intended for?

2961
01:55:19,080 --> 01:55:19,600
They were...

2962
01:55:19,600 --> 01:55:20,280
So...

2963
01:55:20,280 --> 01:55:22,180
Omar is saying,

2964
01:55:22,300 --> 01:55:22,960
get the hat.

2965
01:55:23,060 --> 01:55:23,780
I wonder if...

2966
01:55:23,780 --> 01:55:25,060
If I have the hat,

2967
01:55:25,180 --> 01:55:26,440
then we're fucking laughing.

2968
01:55:26,580 --> 01:55:27,960
Do you accept the lack

2969
01:55:27,960 --> 01:55:29,260
of complete credibility

2970
01:55:29,260 --> 01:55:30,600
to invoice a company

2971
01:55:30,600 --> 01:55:32,440
you've never heard of

2972
01:55:32,440 --> 01:55:33,520
in a different country

2973
01:55:33,520 --> 01:55:34,160
for work

2974
01:55:34,160 --> 01:55:36,200
undertaken here in Dublin?

2975
01:55:36,260 --> 01:55:37,660
I think the lack of credibility

2976
01:55:37,660 --> 01:55:39,120
is on RT's side.

2977
01:55:39,560 --> 01:55:40,380
On RT's side?

2978
01:55:40,420 --> 01:55:40,640
Definitely.

2979
01:55:40,640 --> 01:55:42,260
So how many other deals

2980
01:55:42,260 --> 01:55:43,040
were done with RT,

2981
01:55:43,040 --> 01:55:44,680
with your business,

2982
01:55:44,780 --> 01:55:45,140
Mr Kelly,

2983
01:55:45,220 --> 01:55:45,720
when asked

2984
01:55:45,720 --> 01:55:48,380
to use a company from abroad

2985
01:55:48,380 --> 01:55:49,980
that you've never heard of before?

2986
01:55:50,400 --> 01:55:50,900
This...

2987
01:55:50,900 --> 01:55:52,660
The road shows,

2988
01:55:52,720 --> 01:55:53,520
the road shows

2989
01:55:53,520 --> 01:55:54,460
were unique

2990
01:55:54,460 --> 01:55:55,300
because it was

2991
01:55:55,300 --> 01:55:56,220
late, late,

2992
01:55:56,340 --> 01:55:56,660
Ryan,

2993
01:55:56,860 --> 01:55:57,180
Renault,

2994
01:55:57,340 --> 01:55:57,740
RTE.

2995
01:55:57,740 --> 01:55:59,860
Mr Kelly.

2996
01:55:59,860 --> 01:55:59,860
Mr Kelly,

2997
01:55:59,980 --> 01:56:01,400
you're not taking any responsibility

2998
01:56:01,400 --> 01:56:02,720
for the oversight here

2999
01:56:02,720 --> 01:56:04,580
of Mr Toberti's earnings,

3000
01:56:04,940 --> 01:56:05,320
are you?

3001
01:56:05,920 --> 01:56:07,540
In relation to what we've actually

3002
01:56:07,540 --> 01:56:10,040
been told in this committee room?

3003
01:56:10,420 --> 01:56:11,580
I don't understand what you mean

3004
01:56:11,580 --> 01:56:12,200
by oversight of earnings.

3005
01:56:12,200 --> 01:56:13,840
Are you taking any responsibility

3006
01:56:13,840 --> 01:56:15,480
in relation to the oversight

3007
01:56:15,480 --> 01:56:17,060
of the dealings with Mr Toberti

3008
01:56:17,060 --> 01:56:18,160
in relation to these invoices?

3009
01:56:18,420 --> 01:56:20,400
Trying to get this snapback going,

3010
01:56:20,480 --> 01:56:21,200
sorry, one sec.

3011
01:56:21,200 --> 01:56:22,160
You followed instruction

3012
01:56:22,160 --> 01:56:23,260
from RTE.

3013
01:56:23,420 --> 01:56:23,700
Yeah, yeah.

3014
01:56:24,540 --> 01:56:26,340
But your responsibility

3015
01:56:26,340 --> 01:56:27,380
is on behalf of your client.

3016
01:56:27,500 --> 01:56:28,620
Did you not test

3017
01:56:29,720 --> 01:56:30,800
each of the steps

3018
01:56:30,800 --> 01:56:31,680
that were required?

3019
01:56:31,980 --> 01:56:32,660
My responsibility

3020
01:56:32,660 --> 01:56:33,420
is absolutely

3021
01:56:33,420 --> 01:56:34,500
on my client's behalf

3022
01:56:34,500 --> 01:56:35,980
and that's what we do.

3023
01:56:37,300 --> 01:56:38,140
Mr Toberti,

3024
01:56:38,240 --> 01:56:39,280
you said in your statement

3025
01:56:39,280 --> 01:56:40,000
and you emphasised

3026
01:56:40,000 --> 01:56:41,260
the importance of truth,

3027
01:56:41,680 --> 01:56:42,700
the full truth,

3028
01:56:43,400 --> 01:56:44,700
and you stated

3029
01:56:44,700 --> 01:56:45,700
that the full truth

3030
01:56:45,700 --> 01:56:46,520
was concealed.

3031
01:56:47,520 --> 01:56:47,640
Okay?

3032
01:56:48,260 --> 01:56:49,260
So in your opinion,

3033
01:56:49,640 --> 01:56:50,960
and after what we've listened to

3034
01:56:50,960 --> 01:56:51,780
from Mr Kelly,

3035
01:56:52,340 --> 01:56:52,980
do you believe,

3036
01:56:53,840 --> 01:56:56,020
who do you believe

3037
01:56:56,020 --> 01:56:56,780
was responsible

3038
01:56:56,780 --> 01:56:58,440
for concealing the truth?

3039
01:57:00,020 --> 01:57:00,960
I believe

3040
01:57:00,960 --> 01:57:03,160
the person sitting to my left

3041
01:57:03,160 --> 01:57:05,060
and what he tells me,

3042
01:57:05,160 --> 01:57:05,620
I believe.

3043
01:57:05,980 --> 01:57:07,300
And what he's told you,

3044
01:57:07,640 --> 01:57:08,120
I believe.

3045
01:57:09,900 --> 01:57:10,840
In your opinion,

3046
01:57:10,960 --> 01:57:11,860
do you think your agent

3047
01:57:11,860 --> 01:57:13,000
colluded with RTE

3048
01:57:13,000 --> 01:57:14,160
to conceal these payments?

3049
01:57:14,520 --> 01:57:14,680
No.

3050
01:57:15,240 --> 01:57:16,660
I think my agent did

3051
01:57:16,660 --> 01:57:18,100
what he was instructed

3052
01:57:18,100 --> 01:57:18,880
to do by RTE.

3053
01:57:20,060 --> 01:57:20,900
Mr Toberti,

3054
01:57:20,940 --> 01:57:21,640
your earnings went up

3055
01:57:21,640 --> 01:57:23,840
by 75,000 euros in 2020,

3056
01:57:24,400 --> 01:57:25,520
credited from Reynolds,

3057
01:57:26,160 --> 01:57:26,960
on a side deal,

3058
01:57:27,100 --> 01:57:27,760
and then you received

3059
01:57:27,760 --> 01:57:29,460
another 150,000 euros

3060
01:57:29,460 --> 01:57:30,440
in 2022,

3061
01:57:31,180 --> 01:57:31,660
underwritten

3062
01:57:31,660 --> 01:57:33,500
at the request

3063
01:57:33,500 --> 01:57:35,380
by RTE.

3064
01:57:35,540 --> 01:57:35,740
Yes.

3065
01:57:36,460 --> 01:57:36,700
So,

3066
01:57:37,540 --> 01:57:39,020
am I missing something here?

3067
01:57:39,620 --> 01:57:40,460
The Reynolds...

3068
01:57:40,460 --> 01:57:41,500
At a time...

3069
01:57:41,500 --> 01:57:42,660
The Reno Roadshow,

3070
01:57:42,780 --> 01:57:43,560
thank you very much.

3071
01:57:43,800 --> 01:57:45,920
And Quilted Bishop,

3072
01:57:46,060 --> 01:57:46,640
thank you very much.

3073
01:57:46,640 --> 01:57:46,780
When we were in the middle

3074
01:57:46,780 --> 01:57:47,440
of a pandemic,

3075
01:57:48,040 --> 01:57:49,440
where you had taken

3076
01:57:49,440 --> 01:57:50,600
a 20% pay cut

3077
01:57:50,600 --> 01:57:51,460
on your contract,

3078
01:57:51,560 --> 01:57:52,260
which was signed

3079
01:57:52,260 --> 01:57:53,700
the 1st of April,

3080
01:57:54,060 --> 01:57:54,240
Yes.

3081
01:57:54,680 --> 01:57:56,200
and that these side deals

3082
01:57:56,200 --> 01:57:57,040
were undertaken

3083
01:57:57,040 --> 01:57:58,920
at a time where

3084
01:57:58,920 --> 01:58:00,460
the country was going through

3085
01:58:00,460 --> 01:58:03,200
huge difficulty.

3086
01:58:03,480 --> 01:58:03,700
Yes.

3087
01:58:03,920 --> 01:58:04,900
and you feel that

3088
01:58:04,900 --> 01:58:06,360
these payments

3089
01:58:06,360 --> 01:58:07,920
should not have been

3090
01:58:07,920 --> 01:58:09,200
put into the public domain.

3091
01:58:09,460 --> 01:58:11,800
I was under the understanding

3092
01:58:11,800 --> 01:58:12,520
that the payments

3093
01:58:12,520 --> 01:58:13,240
had come from Renault,

3094
01:58:13,360 --> 01:58:14,940
a very successful

3095
01:58:14,940 --> 01:58:15,680
commercial company,

3096
01:58:15,800 --> 01:58:16,680
so I didn't feel

3097
01:58:16,680 --> 01:58:18,080
that it was an RTE situation.

3098
01:58:18,780 --> 01:58:19,460
Separate contract.

3099
01:58:19,680 --> 01:58:20,340
Even though...

3100
01:58:20,340 --> 01:58:20,800
A separate contract.

3101
01:58:20,800 --> 01:58:21,380
Separate two payments.

3102
01:58:21,380 --> 01:58:22,200
Even though...

3103
01:58:22,200 --> 01:58:23,100
The payments had come

3104
01:58:23,100 --> 01:58:24,800
from Renault...

3105
01:58:24,800 --> 01:58:26,380
Drive the new

3106
01:58:26,380 --> 01:58:28,220
Renault tripartide tonight.

3107
01:58:29,840 --> 01:58:32,440
Starting at 75,000 euros

3108
01:58:32,440 --> 01:58:33,940
in public purse money.

3109
01:58:34,560 --> 01:58:34,720
Yeah.

3110
01:58:35,140 --> 01:58:35,880
That's the misunderstanding.

3111
01:58:35,980 --> 01:58:36,800
And that's the misunderstanding.

3112
01:58:37,760 --> 01:58:38,920
It was a misunderstanding.

3113
01:58:39,460 --> 01:58:40,560
...instruction at RTE assets

3114
01:58:40,560 --> 01:58:42,060
to send out the other ones

3115
01:58:42,060 --> 01:58:43,300
and we were paid by assets.

3116
01:58:43,500 --> 01:58:44,140
So can I ask again,

3117
01:58:44,220 --> 01:58:45,700
who suggested the side deal?

3118
01:58:45,880 --> 01:58:47,620
That's very much to side deal.

3119
01:58:47,960 --> 01:58:48,720
Quilted Bishop,

3120
01:58:49,020 --> 01:58:50,300
the Renault Roadshow.

3121
01:58:50,720 --> 01:58:51,640
Thank you very much.

3122
01:58:52,000 --> 01:58:52,640
Quilted Bishop

3123
01:58:52,640 --> 01:58:54,080
for a silky liaison.

3124
01:58:54,680 --> 01:58:56,560
None other than Stockton Rush

3125
01:58:56,560 --> 01:58:58,360
and 007,

3126
01:58:58,520 --> 01:59:00,220
Pierce Brosnan was slugged.

3127
01:59:00,960 --> 01:59:01,960
If the sponsor changed.

3128
01:59:01,960 --> 01:59:03,500
That's all.

3129
01:59:04,340 --> 01:59:05,220
We never assumed RTE

3130
01:59:05,220 --> 01:59:05,980
would be paying for anything.

3131
01:59:06,380 --> 01:59:07,300
If the sponsor changed,

3132
01:59:07,600 --> 01:59:08,120
that we'd be able

3133
01:59:08,120 --> 01:59:09,080
to re-engage with the sponsor.

3134
01:59:09,180 --> 01:59:10,020
The relationship with the sponsors

3135
01:59:10,020 --> 01:59:10,540
with RTE.

3136
01:59:10,840 --> 01:59:11,780
We'd know...

3137
01:59:11,780 --> 01:59:12,340
You're not allowed...

3138
01:59:12,340 --> 01:59:13,580
We weren't allowed near it.

3139
01:59:13,640 --> 01:59:14,340
We have never worked

3140
01:59:14,340 --> 01:59:14,900
with Renault before.

3141
01:59:14,960 --> 01:59:15,520
We only worked with them

3142
01:59:15,520 --> 01:59:17,460
on this, so...

3143
01:59:17,460 --> 01:59:18,300
At a time,

3144
01:59:18,820 --> 01:59:19,360
Mr. Tuberty,

3145
01:59:19,460 --> 01:59:20,120
you look for

3146
01:59:20,120 --> 01:59:21,500
written assurances

3147
01:59:21,500 --> 01:59:24,260
in relation to

3148
01:59:24,260 --> 01:59:25,480
any further pay cuts

3149
01:59:25,480 --> 01:59:26,980
in your 2020 contract.

3150
01:59:29,460 --> 01:59:30,680
Thank you very much there.

3151
01:59:30,680 --> 01:59:32,720
Steve and Alex Joyce,

3152
01:59:32,720 --> 01:59:33,680
thank you very much.

3153
01:59:34,420 --> 01:59:35,640
No, he didn't.

3154
01:59:35,720 --> 01:59:36,040
I did.

3155
01:59:36,520 --> 01:59:36,880
I did.

3156
01:59:37,680 --> 01:59:38,720
Because having taken

3157
01:59:38,720 --> 01:59:40,500
105,000 euros per year

3158
01:59:40,500 --> 01:59:41,120
by five,

3159
01:59:41,300 --> 01:59:41,900
525,

3160
01:59:42,280 --> 01:59:43,200
and not accepting

3161
01:59:43,200 --> 01:59:44,260
the 120,000

3162
01:59:44,260 --> 01:59:46,300
that he was due

3163
01:59:46,300 --> 01:59:46,980
in contract.

3164
01:59:47,940 --> 01:59:48,480
I just said,

3165
01:59:48,600 --> 01:59:48,720
look,

3166
01:59:49,100 --> 01:59:49,620
you cannot...

3167
01:59:49,620 --> 01:59:50,160
When is a contract

3168
01:59:50,160 --> 01:59:50,560
a contract?

3169
01:59:50,680 --> 01:59:51,640
A contract is only a contract

3170
01:59:51,640 --> 01:59:52,900
when it's actually agreed

3171
01:59:52,900 --> 01:59:53,880
and honoured

3172
01:59:53,880 --> 01:59:54,720
on both sides.

3173
01:59:55,460 --> 01:59:57,020
RTE claim that

3174
01:59:57,020 --> 01:59:58,480
they've completely

3175
01:59:58,480 --> 01:59:59,600
rejected the claim

3176
01:59:59,600 --> 02:00:01,280
of underwriting

3177
02:00:01,280 --> 02:00:02,780
the Renault

3178
02:00:02,780 --> 02:00:03,940
tripartide agreement.

3179
02:00:05,400 --> 02:00:07,000
Do you accept

3180
02:00:07,000 --> 02:00:08,360
what they say

3181
02:00:08,360 --> 02:00:09,220
in relation to that?

3182
02:00:09,280 --> 02:00:10,120
I wonder,

3183
02:00:10,280 --> 02:00:11,240
could you fucking

3184
02:00:11,240 --> 02:00:12,340
crop that photograph

3185
02:00:12,340 --> 02:00:13,780
and put it on him

3186
02:00:13,780 --> 02:00:15,580
there in the thing?

3187
02:00:15,780 --> 02:00:15,860
Sorry.

3188
02:00:16,200 --> 02:00:16,700
Have a look.

3189
02:00:16,760 --> 02:00:17,800
Sorry, page 10.

3190
02:00:17,880 --> 02:00:18,440
Sorry, one sec.

3191
02:00:18,500 --> 02:00:19,440
I'll just try and crop this.

3192
02:00:20,440 --> 02:00:22,880
And in it it says...

3193
02:00:22,880 --> 02:00:23,600
Add that.

3194
02:00:24,880 --> 02:00:26,140
Crop, crop, crop, crop.

3195
02:00:26,240 --> 02:00:26,800
How do you do that?

3196
02:00:26,920 --> 02:00:28,420
We made good progress

3197
02:00:28,420 --> 02:00:30,200
on what the commercial agreement

3198
02:00:30,200 --> 02:00:30,640
would be.

3199
02:00:30,660 --> 02:00:31,340
Stockton Rush.

3200
02:00:31,420 --> 02:00:32,020
Thank you very much.

3201
02:00:32,020 --> 02:00:32,180
We have to agree

3202
02:00:32,180 --> 02:00:33,020
to one in Dublin,

3203
02:00:33,480 --> 02:00:34,140
two outside Dublin.

3204
02:00:34,240 --> 02:00:34,960
Again, all directed

3205
02:00:34,960 --> 02:00:36,040
from RTE.

3206
02:00:36,360 --> 02:00:37,280
What date is on that,

3207
02:00:37,380 --> 02:00:37,780
Mr. Kelly?

3208
02:00:38,180 --> 02:00:39,760
So, that was

3209
02:00:39,760 --> 02:00:41,120
28th of February, 2020.

3210
02:00:41,900 --> 02:00:42,120
Which are...

3211
02:00:42,120 --> 02:00:42,640
So that was...

3212
02:00:42,640 --> 02:00:44,540
Sorry, which are RTE-led

3213
02:00:44,540 --> 02:00:45,820
late, late show events.

3214
02:00:46,200 --> 02:00:46,940
We can provide you

3215
02:00:46,940 --> 02:00:47,600
with a side letter

3216
02:00:47,600 --> 02:00:48,580
to underwrite this fee

3217
02:00:48,580 --> 02:00:48,860
for the...

3218
02:00:48,860 --> 02:00:50,080
Misunderstanding.

3219
02:00:50,220 --> 02:00:51,080
Thank you very much.

3220
02:00:51,320 --> 02:00:52,180
Wasn't about...

3221
02:00:52,180 --> 02:00:53,020
We never...

3222
02:00:53,020 --> 02:00:54,460
Like, how would we know

3223
02:00:54,460 --> 02:00:55,360
RTE was going to be paying for it?

3224
02:00:55,380 --> 02:00:56,200
What the letter was about

3225
02:00:56,200 --> 02:00:57,440
was if the contractor...

3226
02:00:57,440 --> 02:00:57,920
If the...

3227
02:00:57,920 --> 02:00:59,880
Sorry, if the sponsor changed,

3228
02:01:00,740 --> 02:01:02,800
that we would be able

3229
02:01:02,800 --> 02:01:03,700
to work with you, the sponsor.

3230
02:01:03,900 --> 02:01:04,120
Thank you.

3231
02:01:04,320 --> 02:01:04,960
Deputy McArlow.

3232
02:01:06,240 --> 02:01:07,100
Thank you very much,

3233
02:01:07,240 --> 02:01:07,820
Cahirlock,

3234
02:01:07,880 --> 02:01:08,440
and to the witnesses.

3235
02:01:08,780 --> 02:01:09,040
And look,

3236
02:01:09,200 --> 02:01:10,500
I should start from the output

3237
02:01:10,500 --> 02:01:10,960
by saying

3238
02:01:10,960 --> 02:01:12,940
we have a very clear remit

3239
02:01:12,940 --> 02:01:13,960
of the Public Council Committee

3240
02:01:13,960 --> 02:01:14,800
to get to the bottom

3241
02:01:14,800 --> 02:01:15,640
of what's happening.

3242
02:01:15,900 --> 02:01:16,800
And certainly your presence

3243
02:01:16,800 --> 02:01:17,360
here today

3244
02:01:17,360 --> 02:01:18,420
is very welcome.

3245
02:01:18,640 --> 02:01:20,140
you've provided additional information

3246
02:01:20,140 --> 02:01:22,340
and I thank you for that.

3247
02:01:22,940 --> 02:01:23,940
I also want to note,

3248
02:01:24,100 --> 02:01:24,620
Mr. Tuberdee,

3249
02:01:24,660 --> 02:01:26,980
that in your opening statement

3250
02:01:26,980 --> 02:01:28,260
you say you have great credibility

3251
02:01:28,260 --> 02:01:29,300
or you have great respect

3252
02:01:29,300 --> 02:01:30,560
for the institutions

3253
02:01:30,560 --> 02:01:31,200
of this house.

3254
02:01:31,540 --> 02:01:32,500
And I think that statement

3255
02:01:32,500 --> 02:01:33,320
has great credibility.

3256
02:01:33,600 --> 02:01:34,180
I've listened to you

3257
02:01:34,180 --> 02:01:35,160
for a long, long time

3258
02:01:35,160 --> 02:01:37,920
and I appreciate those comments.

3259
02:01:38,080 --> 02:01:38,420
It's important.

3260
02:01:38,880 --> 02:01:40,160
The difficulty that we have

3261
02:01:40,160 --> 02:01:40,960
is that

3262
02:01:40,960 --> 02:01:43,060
for whatever reason,

3263
02:01:43,520 --> 02:01:44,560
something happened here.

3264
02:01:45,120 --> 02:01:45,720
And essentially,

3265
02:01:46,220 --> 02:01:47,580
RTE reduced its income

3266
02:01:47,580 --> 02:01:48,920
by 75,000 euro

3267
02:01:48,920 --> 02:01:51,340
and in turn,

3268
02:01:51,500 --> 02:01:53,140
75,000 euro was paid

3269
02:01:53,140 --> 02:01:54,460
to total productions.

3270
02:01:54,840 --> 02:01:55,080
Total.

3271
02:01:57,080 --> 02:01:57,560
Yeah,

3272
02:01:57,720 --> 02:01:58,140
it was paid

3273
02:01:58,140 --> 02:01:59,060
to total productions,

3274
02:01:59,480 --> 02:02:00,720
albeit for additional duties

3275
02:02:00,720 --> 02:02:01,440
on your behalf.

3276
02:02:02,060 --> 02:02:02,220
So,

3277
02:02:02,740 --> 02:02:04,400
who knew what

3278
02:02:04,400 --> 02:02:04,920
and when

3279
02:02:04,920 --> 02:02:05,860
is really important

3280
02:02:05,860 --> 02:02:07,360
because that is essentially

3281
02:02:07,360 --> 02:02:07,560
what happened.

3282
02:02:07,560 --> 02:02:07,780
Sorry,

3283
02:02:07,880 --> 02:02:08,440
we just need

3284
02:02:08,440 --> 02:02:09,800
a shot of Noel,

3285
02:02:09,960 --> 02:02:10,060
please.

3286
02:02:11,320 --> 02:02:11,940
In return,

3287
02:02:12,180 --> 02:02:13,600
anyone from the Oireachtas there,

3288
02:02:13,740 --> 02:02:14,840
does anyone in the Oireachtas

3289
02:02:14,840 --> 02:02:15,600
who's controlling

3290
02:02:15,600 --> 02:02:16,480
the vision mixer

3291
02:02:16,480 --> 02:02:17,080
in there,

3292
02:02:17,160 --> 02:02:17,880
can you just give us

3293
02:02:17,880 --> 02:02:19,660
a nice mid-shot

3294
02:02:19,660 --> 02:02:20,760
of Noel Kelly,

3295
02:02:20,920 --> 02:02:21,220
please,

3296
02:02:21,360 --> 02:02:23,200
so we can put these

3297
02:02:23,200 --> 02:02:25,400
elements on there.

3298
02:02:26,680 --> 02:02:27,680
I'm obsessed with this.

3299
02:02:27,680 --> 02:02:29,740
And I accept that.

3300
02:02:30,020 --> 02:02:30,840
But would you accept

3301
02:02:30,840 --> 02:02:32,520
that this arrangement

3302
02:02:32,520 --> 02:02:33,200
with RTE

3303
02:02:33,200 --> 02:02:35,440
is not like

3304
02:02:35,440 --> 02:02:36,720
work you've gathered

3305
02:02:36,720 --> 02:02:37,800
from other companies

3306
02:02:37,800 --> 02:02:38,440
like the BBC

3307
02:02:38,440 --> 02:02:38,960
and so on.

3308
02:02:39,200 --> 02:02:39,700
In essence,

3309
02:02:40,020 --> 02:02:41,420
RTE facilitated it,

3310
02:02:41,520 --> 02:02:42,260
it introduced it

3311
02:02:42,260 --> 02:02:43,040
to their clients.

3312
02:02:43,360 --> 02:02:43,820
I want to say

3313
02:02:43,820 --> 02:02:44,340
a big thanks

3314
02:02:44,340 --> 02:02:46,260
to Renault Apartheid deal,

3315
02:02:47,140 --> 02:02:48,240
Steve and Alex Joyce,

3316
02:02:48,680 --> 02:02:50,340
Stockton Rush Engineering

3317
02:02:50,340 --> 02:02:52,200
and Misunderstanding.

3318
02:02:52,320 --> 02:02:52,980
Thank you very much.

3319
02:02:53,040 --> 02:02:54,500
...paid for the staging

3320
02:02:54,500 --> 02:02:55,100
and the catering

3321
02:02:55,100 --> 02:02:55,500
and so on.

3322
02:02:55,780 --> 02:02:55,920
So,

3323
02:02:56,060 --> 02:02:56,900
it's not fair

3324
02:02:56,900 --> 02:02:58,640
to compare this contract

3325
02:02:58,640 --> 02:02:59,740
with other contracts

3326
02:02:59,740 --> 02:03:00,300
that you've gained

3327
02:03:00,300 --> 02:03:01,000
entirely separately.

3328
02:03:01,120 --> 02:03:02,060
Would you accept that?

3329
02:03:02,180 --> 02:03:02,320
Yeah,

3330
02:03:02,360 --> 02:03:03,080
that's a fair observation.

3331
02:03:03,180 --> 02:03:03,360
Yeah,

3332
02:03:03,400 --> 02:03:03,620
okay.

3333
02:03:04,120 --> 02:03:04,440
And so,

3334
02:03:04,520 --> 02:03:05,360
the suggestion is

3335
02:03:05,360 --> 02:03:06,460
is that RTE,

3336
02:03:06,460 --> 02:03:08,440
created this arrangement

3337
02:03:08,440 --> 02:03:10,280
in order to bolster

3338
02:03:10,280 --> 02:03:10,840
your income.

3339
02:03:12,500 --> 02:03:14,200
Do you accept that?

3340
02:03:14,200 --> 02:03:14,780
I understand why

3341
02:03:14,780 --> 02:03:15,360
you'd say that

3342
02:03:15,360 --> 02:03:16,560
but I can't accept it

3343
02:03:16,560 --> 02:03:17,360
as a matter of fact

3344
02:03:17,360 --> 02:03:18,980
because I think it is,

3345
02:03:19,060 --> 02:03:19,740
is it fair to say

3346
02:03:19,740 --> 02:03:20,960
that we would,

3347
02:03:21,500 --> 02:03:22,580
as an independent contractor,

3348
02:03:22,780 --> 02:03:24,340
you do different jobs

3349
02:03:24,340 --> 02:03:25,140
for different companies.

3350
02:03:25,140 --> 02:03:25,620
like,

3351
02:03:25,620 --> 02:03:26,460
for example,

3352
02:03:26,800 --> 02:03:27,880
I've written a couple of books

3353
02:03:27,880 --> 02:03:28,120
with,

3354
02:03:28,220 --> 02:03:28,480
albeit,

3355
02:03:29,060 --> 02:03:29,280
you know,

3356
02:03:29,340 --> 02:03:30,620
a couple of kids' books

3357
02:03:30,620 --> 02:03:31,100
that I don't know

3358
02:03:31,100 --> 02:03:32,540
and I would have done,

3359
02:03:32,820 --> 02:03:33,480
as Noel has said,

3360
02:03:33,540 --> 02:03:34,560
work in the BBC before.

3361
02:03:34,820 --> 02:03:35,920
That's an independent contractor.

3362
02:03:36,080 --> 02:03:36,200
Yeah,

3363
02:03:36,200 --> 02:03:37,720
but RTE wouldn't have paid

3364
02:03:37,720 --> 02:03:38,480
for the catering

3365
02:03:38,480 --> 02:03:40,040
at the launch of those events.

3366
02:03:40,460 --> 02:03:41,700
They wouldn't have provided staff.

3367
02:03:41,840 --> 02:03:43,820
I understand the nuance

3368
02:03:43,820 --> 02:03:44,160
of your point.

3369
02:03:44,160 --> 02:03:44,300
Yeah,

3370
02:03:44,520 --> 02:03:45,240
so I think it's,

3371
02:03:45,360 --> 02:03:46,880
it's a fair point you make

3372
02:03:46,880 --> 02:03:48,060
about being an independent contractor,

3373
02:03:48,160 --> 02:03:49,380
but it's not necessarily

3374
02:03:49,380 --> 02:03:50,460
a relevant point to this

3375
02:03:50,460 --> 02:03:52,200
because this was an arrangement

3376
02:03:52,200 --> 02:03:53,420
created by RTE

3377
02:03:53,420 --> 02:03:55,760
at their behest,

3378
02:03:55,900 --> 02:03:57,200
according to your evidence,

3379
02:03:57,640 --> 02:03:59,000
that created by RTE

3380
02:03:59,000 --> 02:04:00,680
and the net effect of that

3381
02:04:00,680 --> 02:04:02,200
was the taxpayer lost

3382
02:04:02,200 --> 02:04:04,620
€75,000 and you gained it.

3383
02:04:05,260 --> 02:04:05,580
Well,

3384
02:04:05,800 --> 02:04:06,080
again,

3385
02:04:06,340 --> 02:04:07,180
this is something,

3386
02:04:07,340 --> 02:04:07,860
this is...

3387
02:04:07,860 --> 02:04:08,920
Can I address the statement?

3388
02:04:08,920 --> 02:04:09,380
Whether you knew

3389
02:04:09,380 --> 02:04:10,020
that was happening or not,

3390
02:04:10,060 --> 02:04:10,500
it's a different question.

3391
02:04:10,500 --> 02:04:10,920
Oh, I agree.

3392
02:04:10,940 --> 02:04:11,920
That is what's happened.

3393
02:04:12,180 --> 02:04:13,160
If I can address

3394
02:04:13,160 --> 02:04:13,820
the first question

3395
02:04:13,820 --> 02:04:14,640
in relation to the stating,

3396
02:04:15,480 --> 02:04:16,420
as the sponsor-related show,

3397
02:04:16,500 --> 02:04:17,040
RTE were perhaps

3398
02:04:17,040 --> 02:04:18,040
the most important sponsor

3399
02:04:18,040 --> 02:04:20,120
in all sponsors,

3400
02:04:20,640 --> 02:04:21,900
and the fee paid

3401
02:04:21,900 --> 02:04:22,840
with the sponsor-related show

3402
02:04:22,840 --> 02:04:23,220
would dwarf

3403
02:04:23,220 --> 02:04:23,940
any other sponsorship

3404
02:04:23,940 --> 02:04:24,560
that they'd had.

3405
02:04:25,260 --> 02:04:26,120
RTE was focused

3406
02:04:26,120 --> 02:04:27,060
on keeping RTE happy,

3407
02:04:27,180 --> 02:04:27,920
maximising the potential

3408
02:04:27,920 --> 02:04:28,440
of their investment

3409
02:04:28,440 --> 02:04:29,320
on the late, late show.

3410
02:04:29,980 --> 02:04:30,780
I think Geraldine Alisa,

3411
02:04:30,880 --> 02:04:31,240
when she was here

3412
02:04:31,240 --> 02:04:31,680
the other week,

3413
02:04:31,840 --> 02:04:33,120
that certainly during COVID,

3414
02:04:33,440 --> 02:04:34,140
there was tickets

3415
02:04:34,140 --> 02:04:34,700
for the audience,

3416
02:04:34,800 --> 02:04:35,240
there had no tickets

3417
02:04:35,240 --> 02:04:35,700
for the audience,

3418
02:04:35,820 --> 02:04:36,340
there's a green room,

3419
02:04:36,380 --> 02:04:37,040
there's no green room,

3420
02:04:37,120 --> 02:04:37,660
so they were trying to...

3421
02:04:37,660 --> 02:04:37,860
Skelly,

3422
02:04:38,260 --> 02:04:38,980
you're way off point.

3423
02:04:39,280 --> 02:04:41,080
No, I'm trying to keep them.

3424
02:04:41,080 --> 02:04:41,620
The point is very simple

3425
02:04:41,620 --> 02:04:42,240
that I put Mr. Ruppert.

3426
02:04:42,240 --> 02:04:43,860
I think what we'll do

3427
02:04:43,860 --> 02:04:45,240
is we'll just keep him there.

3428
02:04:45,380 --> 02:04:46,660
Sorry, that RTE lost 75,000 euros.

3429
02:04:46,660 --> 02:04:48,100
We will just keep him there

3430
02:04:48,100 --> 02:04:49,840
as a kind of lucky talisman

3431
02:04:49,840 --> 02:04:51,160
for the rest of the stream, maybe.

3432
02:04:51,180 --> 02:04:51,180
Mr. Coveney's called,

3433
02:04:51,180 --> 02:04:51,680
the production company

3434
02:04:51,680 --> 02:04:52,860
gained 75,000

3435
02:04:52,860 --> 02:04:54,160
as a result of this tri-party.

3436
02:04:54,160 --> 02:04:56,220
Well, no, I completely disagree with that.

3437
02:04:56,480 --> 02:04:58,080
No, you can't disagree with that

3438
02:04:58,080 --> 02:04:58,980
because that's what actually happened.

3439
02:04:59,000 --> 02:04:59,300
I know.

3440
02:04:59,660 --> 02:05:01,500
And all credit to...

3441
02:05:01,500 --> 02:05:02,260
Please explain.

3442
02:05:04,060 --> 02:05:05,680
Whoever made this.

3443
02:05:06,060 --> 02:05:08,060
All credit to whoever made this

3444
02:05:08,060 --> 02:05:09,160
because I...

3445
02:05:10,160 --> 02:05:11,300
The figure of 225...

3446
02:05:11,300 --> 02:05:13,520
It must have been 15 minutes

3447
02:05:13,520 --> 02:05:16,360
of unbroken...

3448
02:05:16,360 --> 02:05:19,780
...laster this morning.

3449
02:05:20,000 --> 02:05:21,140
...because they'd issued a credit note.

3450
02:05:21,200 --> 02:05:23,120
We had no idea about the mission

3451
02:05:23,120 --> 02:05:25,000
which made me want to do this stream.

3452
02:05:25,240 --> 02:05:26,180
And thank you very much

3453
02:05:26,180 --> 02:05:26,980
for whoever did this.

3454
02:05:27,040 --> 02:05:28,360
Let me see the...

3455
02:05:28,360 --> 02:05:32,360
It's from...

3456
02:05:32,360 --> 02:05:33,880
...Connor Farron.

3457
02:05:35,200 --> 02:05:36,880
And who knew?

3458
02:05:38,040 --> 02:05:39,860
It's a tight Photoshop as well.

3459
02:05:40,160 --> 02:05:42,060
I mean, if you look at Tuberley,

3460
02:05:42,200 --> 02:05:42,860
it's kind of...

3461
02:05:42,860 --> 02:05:43,920
That's completely between Orton and Renau.

3462
02:05:43,980 --> 02:05:44,800
That's great as well.

3463
02:05:44,800 --> 02:05:45,740
We've no knowledge.

3464
02:05:45,740 --> 02:05:46,960
We've no knowledge.

3465
02:05:47,200 --> 02:05:48,440
Our understanding of what they do.

3466
02:05:48,700 --> 02:05:49,480
As you can see, we...

3467
02:05:49,480 --> 02:05:50,460
So I'm thinking that you accepted

3468
02:05:50,460 --> 02:05:51,540
that's the fact of the situation.

3469
02:05:51,620 --> 02:05:53,660
So we've no idea what Renau do.

3470
02:05:53,900 --> 02:05:55,280
In relation to Ryan's contract,

3471
02:05:55,380 --> 02:05:55,720
it was completely accepted.

3472
02:05:55,720 --> 02:05:56,220
Well, Mr. Kelly,

3473
02:05:56,320 --> 02:05:57,840
the crux of the problem is...

3474
02:05:57,840 --> 02:05:58,980
The crux of the problem is

3475
02:05:58,980 --> 02:06:00,220
that that is what actually happened.

3476
02:06:00,500 --> 02:06:01,340
And we need to find out

3477
02:06:01,340 --> 02:06:02,020
who knew that.

3478
02:06:02,380 --> 02:06:03,400
Because it looks like

3479
02:06:03,400 --> 02:06:05,360
there's an attempt to deceive.

3480
02:06:05,920 --> 02:06:06,220
Okay.

3481
02:06:06,380 --> 02:06:08,240
Well, then, if that's the question,

3482
02:06:08,360 --> 02:06:09,260
we were deceived as well.

3483
02:06:09,540 --> 02:06:09,800
Okay.

3484
02:06:09,800 --> 02:06:10,440
We were deceived as well.

3485
02:06:10,540 --> 02:06:10,740
Okay.

3486
02:06:10,900 --> 02:06:12,600
So are you both saying...

3487
02:06:12,600 --> 02:06:13,520
Are you both saying that...

3488
02:06:13,520 --> 02:06:14,620
And it's entirely likely

3489
02:06:14,620 --> 02:06:15,300
that you just don't know.

3490
02:06:15,500 --> 02:06:16,100
Are you both saying

3491
02:06:16,100 --> 02:06:16,940
you were not aware

3492
02:06:16,940 --> 02:06:18,440
that the title-sponsored

3493
02:06:18,440 --> 02:06:19,060
late, late show

3494
02:06:19,060 --> 02:06:20,800
was reducing its sponsorship

3495
02:06:20,800 --> 02:06:21,760
by €75,000?

3496
02:06:21,760 --> 02:06:22,060
No.

3497
02:06:22,360 --> 02:06:22,520
No.

3498
02:06:22,720 --> 02:06:23,620
So that never came up.

3499
02:06:23,720 --> 02:06:24,380
That's not part of it.

3500
02:06:24,460 --> 02:06:25,800
Because the cost-neutral nature

3501
02:06:25,800 --> 02:06:26,240
of the agreement

3502
02:06:26,240 --> 02:06:27,200
is really important.

3503
02:06:27,480 --> 02:06:27,660
Sure.

3504
02:06:27,680 --> 02:06:29,000
Because that's what really

3505
02:06:29,000 --> 02:06:30,240
brings it down to the core.

3506
02:06:30,700 --> 02:06:31,380
That money was taken off.

3507
02:06:31,380 --> 02:06:32,220
See, it's faith, then.

3508
02:06:32,300 --> 02:06:33,300
And both of you are saying

3509
02:06:33,300 --> 02:06:34,080
you've not the book.

3510
02:06:34,180 --> 02:06:34,760
It's really important.

3511
02:06:35,080 --> 02:06:35,280
Sure.

3512
02:06:35,300 --> 02:06:36,600
Because that's what really

3513
02:06:36,600 --> 02:06:37,600
brings it down to the evidence.

3514
02:06:37,780 --> 02:06:39,140
She said she raised the credit notice

3515
02:06:39,140 --> 02:06:41,040
for that books.

3516
02:06:41,180 --> 02:06:41,920
And both of you are saying

3517
02:06:41,920 --> 02:06:42,720
you've no idea

3518
02:06:42,720 --> 02:06:44,800
that in Miss O'Leary's evidence

3519
02:06:44,800 --> 02:06:46,280
she said she raised the credit notice

3520
02:06:46,280 --> 02:06:47,040
€75,000

3521
02:06:47,040 --> 02:06:48,200
and she did that

3522
02:06:48,200 --> 02:06:49,600
on the instruction of Miss Forbes

3523
02:06:49,600 --> 02:06:51,100
and you said no idea

3524
02:06:51,100 --> 02:06:51,640
or arrangement.

3525
02:06:52,100 --> 02:06:52,480
No, no idea.

3526
02:06:52,540 --> 02:06:53,340
Never formed part

3527
02:06:53,340 --> 02:06:54,800
of any of the contract negotiations

3528
02:06:54,800 --> 02:06:55,680
and so on.

3529
02:06:55,760 --> 02:06:56,100
That's great.

3530
02:06:56,400 --> 02:06:56,560
Okay.

3531
02:06:56,640 --> 02:06:57,280
Look, that's important

3532
02:06:57,280 --> 02:06:58,840
to get on the table.

3533
02:06:58,840 --> 02:06:59,160
Okay.

3534
02:06:59,560 --> 02:07:00,200
Do you have any of the...

3535
02:07:00,200 --> 02:07:01,280
No idea or arranged

3536
02:07:01,280 --> 02:07:02,140
for the late, late show

3537
02:07:02,140 --> 02:07:03,620
was the title sponsor.

3538
02:07:03,820 --> 02:07:04,720
We were deceived as well.

3539
02:07:05,020 --> 02:07:05,560
Oh, no idea.

3540
02:07:05,960 --> 02:07:06,380
Miss Forbes.

3541
02:07:06,520 --> 02:07:06,820
Sorry.

3542
02:07:06,900 --> 02:07:08,200
Sorry for all the skipping here.

3543
02:07:08,320 --> 02:07:09,660
I was trying to get that frame.

3544
02:07:10,180 --> 02:07:10,860
This is, again,

3545
02:07:11,000 --> 02:07:13,180
the problem with the Oireachtas committees

3546
02:07:13,180 --> 02:07:14,920
or the House of the Oireachtas.

3547
02:07:15,000 --> 02:07:15,940
You need to get someone

3548
02:07:15,940 --> 02:07:17,560
who can modify your player.

3549
02:07:18,020 --> 02:07:20,060
I'm having great crack watching this,

3550
02:07:20,400 --> 02:07:21,640
but it's marred by the fact

3551
02:07:21,640 --> 02:07:23,500
you can't fucking skip back.

3552
02:07:23,960 --> 02:07:25,340
It keeps on moving on.

3553
02:07:25,520 --> 02:07:27,300
The goalposts keep shifting

3554
02:07:27,300 --> 02:07:27,700
on the player.

3555
02:07:27,780 --> 02:07:29,600
It's not like a YouTube DVR

3556
02:07:29,600 --> 02:07:30,140
or any of that.

3557
02:07:30,640 --> 02:07:32,640
So thanks for the entertainment, lads,

3558
02:07:32,920 --> 02:07:34,260
but you need to get your player

3559
02:07:34,260 --> 02:07:34,860
up to scratch.

3560
02:07:34,980 --> 02:07:36,240
It's better, as I said before,

3561
02:07:36,240 --> 02:07:37,400
it's a lot better

3562
02:07:37,400 --> 02:07:38,400
than the RTE player.

3563
02:07:39,420 --> 02:07:40,120
Eamon Campion,

3564
02:07:40,200 --> 02:07:41,160
thank you very much there.

3565
02:07:41,880 --> 02:07:43,380
An historic bollocking,

3566
02:07:43,520 --> 02:07:44,160
you say this is.

3567
02:07:44,800 --> 02:07:45,240
40%,

3568
02:07:45,240 --> 02:07:46,640
which excludes the 120.

3569
02:07:46,780 --> 02:07:48,380
The final figure is 40% pay cut.

3570
02:07:48,520 --> 02:07:49,300
40% pay cut.

3571
02:07:49,400 --> 02:07:51,160
I really...

3572
02:07:51,160 --> 02:07:52,280
I tried not to shirk

3573
02:07:52,280 --> 02:07:53,060
my responsibility

3574
02:07:53,060 --> 02:07:53,900
in that regard.

3575
02:07:54,040 --> 02:07:55,340
Well, they accept that,

3576
02:07:55,360 --> 02:07:56,780
but the facts are before us

3577
02:07:56,780 --> 02:07:58,860
and I think that is your difficulty.

3578
02:07:58,940 --> 02:08:00,020
That's why we're here today.

3579
02:08:00,020 --> 02:08:01,020
I appreciate it.

3580
02:08:01,700 --> 02:08:02,340
Mr. Kelly,

3581
02:08:02,560 --> 02:08:03,760
I want to turn to the invoice

3582
02:08:03,760 --> 02:08:04,480
that was raised.

3583
02:08:05,180 --> 02:08:06,020
You can even...

3584
02:08:06,020 --> 02:08:07,340
you can slow it down,

3585
02:08:07,420 --> 02:08:07,580
look.

3586
02:08:10,580 --> 02:08:11,860
You can slow it down

3587
02:08:11,860 --> 02:08:14,380
and then we can put some of that on.

3588
02:08:14,380 --> 02:08:21,040
that you spent my 40 cents,

3589
02:08:22,040 --> 02:08:23,540
which is...

3590
02:08:23,540 --> 02:08:29,540
I don't think...

3591
02:08:29,540 --> 02:08:33,520
that 40% pay cut.

3592
02:08:33,520 --> 02:08:50,580
I try not to hear my response.

3593
02:08:50,580 --> 02:08:58,700
Disturbing.

3594
02:09:01,960 --> 02:09:08,960
Ricky Bobby 420 in the chat says simply disturbing.

3595
02:09:08,960 --> 02:09:20,960
Okay.

3596
02:09:20,960 --> 02:09:22,960
Okay.

3597
02:09:22,960 --> 02:09:26,960
Trude.

3598
02:09:26,960 --> 02:09:33,960
Trish Whelan is after you.

3599
02:09:33,960 --> 02:09:40,960
So I then turn to the issue of the invoices.

3600
02:09:40,960 --> 02:09:43,960
And I have to question Mr Kelly.

3601
02:09:43,960 --> 02:09:47,960
Do you want to come to an Elvis showman?

3602
02:09:47,960 --> 02:09:48,960
Look at that.

3603
02:09:48,960 --> 02:09:52,960
These are the invoices from the other two 75,000 euros.

3604
02:09:52,960 --> 02:09:53,960
Yes.

3605
02:09:53,960 --> 02:09:54,960
One by Noel Kelly.

3606
02:09:54,960 --> 02:09:55,960
The other two by CMS.

3607
02:09:55,960 --> 02:09:56,960
Yes.

3608
02:09:56,960 --> 02:09:57,960
One with the full description.

3609
02:09:57,960 --> 02:09:59,960
The other two without the full description.

3610
02:09:59,960 --> 02:10:00,960
Yeah.

3611
02:10:00,960 --> 02:10:02,960
All relating to the same 75,000.

3612
02:10:02,960 --> 02:10:04,960
All relating to the arrangement of reno.

3613
02:10:04,960 --> 02:10:06,960
You're the only one that raised these two invoices.

3614
02:10:06,960 --> 02:10:07,960
Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3615
02:10:07,960 --> 02:10:08,960
Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3616
02:10:08,960 --> 02:10:09,960
Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3617
02:10:09,960 --> 02:10:10,960
Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3618
02:10:10,960 --> 02:10:11,960
Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3619
02:10:11,960 --> 02:10:12,960
Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3620
02:10:12,960 --> 02:10:13,960
Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3621
02:10:13,960 --> 02:10:14,960
Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3622
02:10:14,960 --> 02:10:15,960
Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3623
02:10:15,960 --> 02:10:16,960
Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3624
02:10:16,960 --> 02:10:17,960
Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3625
02:10:17,960 --> 02:10:18,960
Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3626
02:10:18,960 --> 02:10:19,960
Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3627
02:10:19,960 --> 02:10:20,960
Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3628
02:10:20,960 --> 02:10:21,960
Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3629
02:10:21,960 --> 02:10:22,960
Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3630
02:10:22,960 --> 02:10:23,960
Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3631
02:10:23,960 --> 02:10:24,960
Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3632
02:10:24,960 --> 02:10:25,960
Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3633
02:10:25,960 --> 02:10:26,960
Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3634
02:10:26,960 --> 02:10:27,960
Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3635
02:10:27,960 --> 02:10:28,960
Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3636
02:10:28,960 --> 02:10:29,960
Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3637
02:10:29,960 --> 02:10:30,960
Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3638
02:10:30,960 --> 02:10:31,960
Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3639
02:10:31,960 --> 02:10:32,960
Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3640
02:10:32,960 --> 02:10:33,960
Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3641
02:10:33,960 --> 02:10:34,960
Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3642
02:10:34,960 --> 02:10:35,960
Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3643
02:10:35,960 --> 02:10:36,960
Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3644
02:10:36,960 --> 02:10:37,960
Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3645
02:10:37,960 --> 02:10:38,960
Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3646
02:10:38,960 --> 02:10:39,960
Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3647
02:10:39,960 --> 02:10:40,960
Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3648
02:10:40,960 --> 02:10:41,960
Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3649
02:10:41,960 --> 02:10:42,960
Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3650
02:10:42,960 --> 02:10:43,960
Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3651
02:10:43,960 --> 02:10:44,960
Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3652
02:10:44,960 --> 02:10:45,960
Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3653
02:10:45,960 --> 02:10:46,960
Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3654
02:10:46,960 --> 02:10:47,960
Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3655
02:10:47,960 --> 02:10:48,960
Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3656
02:10:48,960 --> 02:10:49,960
Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3657
02:10:49,960 --> 02:10:50,960
Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3658
02:10:50,960 --> 02:10:51,960
Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3659
02:10:51,960 --> 02:10:52,960
Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3660
02:10:52,960 --> 02:10:53,960
Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3661
02:10:53,960 --> 02:10:54,960
Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3662
02:10:54,960 --> 02:10:55,960
Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3663
02:10:55,960 --> 02:10:56,960
Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3664
02:10:56,960 --> 02:10:57,960
Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3665
02:10:57,960 --> 02:10:58,960
Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3666
02:10:58,960 --> 02:10:59,960
Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3667
02:10:59,960 --> 02:11:00,960
Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3668
02:11:00,960 --> 02:11:01,960
Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3669
02:11:01,960 --> 02:11:02,960
Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3670
02:11:02,960 --> 02:11:03,960
Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3671
02:11:03,960 --> 02:11:04,960
Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3672
02:11:04,960 --> 02:11:05,960
Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3673
02:11:05,960 --> 02:11:06,960
Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3674
02:11:06,960 --> 02:11:07,960
Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3675
02:11:07,960 --> 02:11:08,960
Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3676
02:11:08,960 --> 02:11:09,960
Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3677
02:11:09,960 --> 02:11:10,960
Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3678
02:11:10,960 --> 02:11:11,960
Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3679
02:11:11,960 --> 02:11:12,960
Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3680
02:11:12,960 --> 02:11:13,960
Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3681
02:11:13,960 --> 02:11:14,960
Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3682
02:11:14,960 --> 02:11:15,960
Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3683
02:11:15,960 --> 02:11:16,960
Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3684
02:11:16,960 --> 02:11:17,960
Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3685
02:11:17,960 --> 02:11:18,960
Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3686
02:11:18,960 --> 02:11:19,960
Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3687
02:11:19,960 --> 02:11:20,960
Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3688
02:11:20,960 --> 02:11:21,960
Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3689
02:11:21,960 --> 02:11:22,960
Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3690
02:11:22,960 --> 02:11:23,960
Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3691
02:11:23,960 --> 02:11:24,960
Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3692
02:11:24,960 --> 02:11:25,960
Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3693
02:11:25,960 --> 02:11:26,960
Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3694
02:11:26,960 --> 02:11:27,960
Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3695
02:11:27,960 --> 02:11:28,960
Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3696
02:11:28,960 --> 02:11:29,960
Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3697
02:11:29,960 --> 02:11:30,960
Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3698
02:11:30,960 --> 02:11:31,960
Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3699
02:11:31,960 --> 02:11:32,960
Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3700
02:11:32,960 --> 02:11:33,960
Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3701
02:11:33,960 --> 02:11:34,960
Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3702
02:11:34,960 --> 02:11:35,960
Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3703
02:11:35,960 --> 02:11:36,960
Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3704
02:11:36,960 --> 02:11:37,960
Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3705
02:11:37,960 --> 02:11:38,960
Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3706
02:11:38,960 --> 02:11:39,960
Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3707
02:11:39,960 --> 02:11:40,960
Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3708
02:11:40,960 --> 02:11:41,960
Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3709
02:11:41,960 --> 02:11:42,960
Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3710
02:11:42,960 --> 02:11:43,960
Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3711
02:11:43,960 --> 02:11:44,960
Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3712
02:11:44,960 --> 02:11:45,960
Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3713
02:11:45,960 --> 02:11:46,960
Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3714
02:11:46,960 --> 02:11:47,960
Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3715
02:11:47,960 --> 02:11:48,960
Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3716
02:11:48,960 --> 02:11:49,960
Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3717
02:11:49,960 --> 02:11:50,960
Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3718
02:11:50,960 --> 02:11:51,960
Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3719
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3720
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3721
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3722
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3723
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3724
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3725
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3726
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3727
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3728
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3729
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3730
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3731
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3732
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3733
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3734
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3735
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3736
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3737
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3738
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3739
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3740
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3741
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3742
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3743
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3744
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3745
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3746
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3747
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3748
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3749
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3750
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3751
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3752
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3753
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3754
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3755
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3756
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3757
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3758
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3759
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3760
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3761
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3762
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3763
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3764
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3765
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3766
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3767
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3768
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3769
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3770
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3771
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3772
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3773
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3774
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3775
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3776
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3777
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3778
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3779
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3780
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3781
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3782
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3783
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3784
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3785
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3786
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3787
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3788
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3789
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3790
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3791
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3792
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3793
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3794
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3795
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3796
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3797
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3798
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3799
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3800
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3801
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3802
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3803
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3804
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3805
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3806
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3807
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3808
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3809
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3810
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3811
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3812
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3813
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3814
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3815
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3816
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3817
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3818
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3819
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3820
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3821
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3822
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3823
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3824
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3825
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3826
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3827
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3828
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3829
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3830
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3831
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3832
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Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3833
02:13:45,960 --> 02:13:46,960
Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3834
02:13:46,960 --> 02:13:47,960
Sean Thornton thank you very much.

3835
02:13:47,960 --> 02:13:48,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3836
02:13:48,960 --> 02:13:49,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3837
02:13:49,960 --> 02:13:50,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3838
02:13:50,960 --> 02:13:51,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3839
02:13:51,960 --> 02:13:52,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3840
02:13:52,960 --> 02:13:53,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3841
02:13:53,960 --> 02:13:54,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3842
02:13:54,960 --> 02:13:55,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3843
02:13:55,960 --> 02:13:56,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3844
02:13:56,960 --> 02:13:57,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3845
02:13:57,960 --> 02:13:58,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3846
02:13:58,960 --> 02:13:59,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3847
02:13:59,960 --> 02:14:00,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3848
02:14:00,960 --> 02:14:01,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3849
02:14:01,960 --> 02:14:02,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3850
02:14:02,960 --> 02:14:03,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3851
02:14:03,960 --> 02:14:04,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3852
02:14:04,960 --> 02:14:05,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3853
02:14:05,960 --> 02:14:06,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3854
02:14:06,960 --> 02:14:07,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3855
02:14:07,960 --> 02:14:08,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3856
02:14:08,960 --> 02:14:09,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3857
02:14:09,960 --> 02:14:10,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3858
02:14:10,960 --> 02:14:11,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3859
02:14:11,960 --> 02:14:12,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3860
02:14:12,960 --> 02:14:13,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3861
02:14:13,960 --> 02:14:14,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3862
02:14:14,960 --> 02:14:15,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3863
02:14:15,960 --> 02:14:16,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3864
02:14:16,960 --> 02:14:17,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3865
02:14:17,960 --> 02:14:18,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3866
02:14:18,960 --> 02:14:19,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3867
02:14:19,960 --> 02:14:20,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3868
02:14:20,960 --> 02:14:21,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3869
02:14:21,960 --> 02:14:22,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3870
02:14:22,960 --> 02:14:23,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3871
02:14:23,960 --> 02:14:24,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3872
02:14:24,960 --> 02:14:25,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3873
02:14:25,960 --> 02:14:26,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3874
02:14:26,960 --> 02:14:27,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3875
02:14:27,960 --> 02:14:28,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3876
02:14:28,960 --> 02:14:29,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3877
02:14:29,960 --> 02:14:30,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3878
02:14:30,960 --> 02:14:31,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3879
02:14:31,960 --> 02:14:32,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3880
02:14:32,960 --> 02:14:33,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3881
02:14:33,960 --> 02:14:34,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3882
02:14:34,960 --> 02:14:35,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3883
02:14:35,960 --> 02:14:36,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3884
02:14:36,960 --> 02:14:37,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3885
02:14:37,960 --> 02:14:38,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3886
02:14:38,960 --> 02:14:39,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3887
02:14:39,960 --> 02:14:40,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3888
02:14:40,960 --> 02:14:41,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3889
02:14:41,960 --> 02:14:42,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3890
02:14:42,960 --> 02:14:43,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3891
02:14:43,960 --> 02:14:44,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3892
02:14:44,960 --> 02:14:45,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3893
02:14:45,960 --> 02:14:46,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3894
02:14:46,960 --> 02:14:47,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3895
02:14:47,960 --> 02:14:48,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3896
02:14:48,960 --> 02:14:49,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3897
02:14:49,960 --> 02:14:50,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3898
02:14:50,960 --> 02:14:51,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3899
02:14:51,960 --> 02:14:52,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3900
02:14:52,960 --> 02:14:53,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3901
02:14:53,960 --> 02:14:54,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3902
02:14:54,960 --> 02:14:55,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3903
02:14:55,960 --> 02:14:56,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3904
02:14:56,960 --> 02:14:57,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3905
02:14:57,960 --> 02:14:58,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3906
02:14:58,960 --> 02:14:59,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3907
02:14:59,960 --> 02:15:00,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3908
02:15:00,960 --> 02:15:01,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3909
02:15:01,960 --> 02:15:02,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3910
02:15:02,960 --> 02:15:03,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3911
02:15:03,960 --> 02:15:04,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3912
02:15:04,960 --> 02:15:05,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3913
02:15:05,960 --> 02:15:06,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3914
02:15:06,960 --> 02:15:07,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3915
02:15:07,960 --> 02:15:08,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3916
02:15:08,960 --> 02:15:09,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3917
02:15:09,960 --> 02:15:10,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3918
02:15:10,960 --> 02:15:11,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3919
02:15:11,960 --> 02:15:12,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3920
02:15:12,960 --> 02:15:13,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3921
02:15:13,960 --> 02:15:14,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3922
02:15:14,960 --> 02:15:15,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3923
02:15:15,960 --> 02:15:16,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3924
02:15:16,960 --> 02:15:17,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3925
02:15:17,960 --> 02:15:18,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3926
02:15:18,960 --> 02:15:19,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3927
02:15:19,960 --> 02:15:20,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3928
02:15:20,960 --> 02:15:21,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3929
02:15:21,960 --> 02:15:22,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3930
02:15:22,960 --> 02:15:23,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3931
02:15:23,960 --> 02:15:24,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3932
02:15:24,960 --> 02:15:25,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3933
02:15:25,960 --> 02:15:26,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3934
02:15:26,960 --> 02:15:27,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3935
02:15:27,960 --> 02:15:28,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3936
02:15:28,960 --> 02:15:29,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3937
02:15:29,960 --> 02:15:30,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3938
02:15:30,960 --> 02:15:31,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3939
02:15:31,960 --> 02:15:32,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3940
02:15:32,960 --> 02:15:33,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3941
02:15:33,960 --> 02:15:34,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3942
02:15:34,960 --> 02:15:35,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3943
02:15:35,960 --> 02:15:36,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3944
02:15:36,960 --> 02:15:37,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3945
02:15:37,960 --> 02:15:38,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3946
02:15:38,960 --> 02:15:39,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3947
02:15:39,960 --> 02:15:40,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3948
02:15:40,960 --> 02:15:41,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3949
02:15:41,960 --> 02:15:42,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3950
02:15:42,960 --> 02:15:43,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3951
02:15:43,960 --> 02:15:44,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3952
02:15:44,960 --> 02:15:45,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3953
02:15:45,960 --> 02:15:46,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3954
02:15:46,960 --> 02:15:47,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3955
02:15:47,960 --> 02:15:48,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3956
02:15:48,960 --> 02:15:49,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3957
02:15:49,960 --> 02:15:50,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3958
02:15:50,960 --> 02:15:51,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3959
02:15:51,960 --> 02:15:52,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3960
02:15:52,960 --> 02:15:53,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3961
02:15:53,960 --> 02:15:54,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3962
02:15:54,960 --> 02:15:55,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3963
02:15:55,960 --> 02:15:56,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3964
02:15:56,960 --> 02:15:57,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3965
02:15:57,960 --> 02:15:58,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3966
02:15:58,960 --> 02:15:59,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3967
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Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3968
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Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3969
02:16:01,960 --> 02:16:02,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3970
02:16:02,960 --> 02:16:03,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3971
02:16:03,960 --> 02:16:04,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3972
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Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3973
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Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3974
02:16:06,960 --> 02:16:07,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3975
02:16:07,960 --> 02:16:08,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3976
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Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3977
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Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3978
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Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3979
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Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3980
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Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3981
02:16:13,960 --> 02:16:14,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3982
02:16:14,960 --> 02:16:15,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3983
02:16:15,960 --> 02:16:16,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3984
02:16:16,960 --> 02:16:17,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3985
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Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3986
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Sean Thornton thanks very much.

3987
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3988
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3989
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3990
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3991
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3993
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3994
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3995
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3996
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3997
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3998
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3999
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4000
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4001
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4002
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4003
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4004
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4005
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4006
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4007
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4008
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4009
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4010
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4011
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4012
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4013
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4014
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4015
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4016
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4017
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4018
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4019
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4020
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4021
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4022
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4023
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4024
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4025
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4026
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4027
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4028
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4029
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4030
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4031
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4032
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4033
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4034
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4035
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4036
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4037
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4038
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4039
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4040
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4041
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4042
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4043
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4044
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4045
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4046
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4047
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4048
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4049
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4050
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4051
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4052
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4053
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4054
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4055
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4056
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4057
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4058
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4059
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4060
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4061
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4062
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4063
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4064
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4065
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4066
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4067
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4068
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4069
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4070
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4071
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4072
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4073
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4074
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4075
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4076
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4077
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4078
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4079
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4080
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4081
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4082
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4083
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4084
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4085
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4086
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4087
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4088
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4089
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4090
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4091
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4092
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4093
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4094
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4095
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4096
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4097
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4098
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4099
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4100
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4101
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4102
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4103
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4104
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4105
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4106
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4107
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4108
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4109
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4110
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4111
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4112
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4113
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4114
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4115
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4116
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4117
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4118
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4119
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4120
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4121
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4122
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4123
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4124
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4125
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4126
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4127
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4128
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4129
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4130
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4131
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4132
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4133
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4134
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4135
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4136
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4137
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4138
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4139
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4140
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4141
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4142
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4143
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4144
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4145
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4146
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4147
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4148
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4149
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4150
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4151
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4152
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4153
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4154
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4155
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4156
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4157
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4158
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4159
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4160
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4161
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4162
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4163
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4164
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4165
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4166
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4167
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4168
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4169
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4170
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4171
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4172
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4173
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4174
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4175
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4176
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4177
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4178
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4179
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4180
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4181
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4182
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4183
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4184
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4185
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4186
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4187
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4188
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4189
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4190
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4191
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4192
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4193
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4194
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4195
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4196
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4197
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4198
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4199
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4200
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4201
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4202
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4203
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4204
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4205
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4206
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4207
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4208
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4209
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4210
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4211
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4212
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4213
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4214
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4215
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4216
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4217
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4218
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4219
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4220
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4221
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4222
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4223
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4224
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4225
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4226
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4227
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4228
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4229
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4230
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4231
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4232
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4233
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4234
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4235
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4236
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4237
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4238
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4239
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4240
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4241
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4242
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4243
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4244
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4245
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4246
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4247
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4248
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4249
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4250
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4251
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4252
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4253
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4254
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4255
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4256
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4257
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4258
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Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4259
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4260
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4261
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4262
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4263
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4264
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4265
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4266
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4267
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4268
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4269
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4270
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4271
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4272
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4273
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4274
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4275
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4276
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4277
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4278
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4279
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4280
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4281
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4282
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4283
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4284
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4285
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4286
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4287
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4288
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4289
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4290
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4291
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4292
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4293
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4294
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4295
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4296
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4297
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4298
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4299
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4300
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4301
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4302
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4303
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4304
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4305
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4306
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4307
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4308
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4309
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4310
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4311
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4312
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4313
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4314
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4315
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4316
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4317
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4318
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4319
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4320
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4321
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4322
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4323
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4324
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4325
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4326
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4327
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4328
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4329
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4330
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4331
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4332
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4333
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4334
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4335
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4336
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4337
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4338
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4339
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4340
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4341
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4342
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4343
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4344
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4345
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4346
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4347
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4348
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4349
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4350
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4351
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4352
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4353
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4354
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4355
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4356
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4357
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4358
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4359
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4360
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4361
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4362
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4363
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4364
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4365
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4366
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4367
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4368
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4369
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4370
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4371
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4372
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4373
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4374
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4375
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4376
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4377
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4378
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4379
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4380
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4381
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4382
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4383
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4384
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4385
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4386
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4387
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4388
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4389
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4390
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4391
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4392
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4393
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4394
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4395
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4396
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4397
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4398
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4399
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4400
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4401
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4402
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4403
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4404
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4405
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4406
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4407
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4408
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4409
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4410
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4411
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4412
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4413
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4414
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4415
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4416
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4417
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4418
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4419
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4420
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4421
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4422
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4423
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4424
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4425
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4426
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4427
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4428
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4429
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4430
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4431
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4432
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4433
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4434
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4435
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4436
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4437
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4438
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4439
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4440
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4441
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4442
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4443
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4444
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4445
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4446
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4447
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4448
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4449
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4450
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4451
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4452
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4453
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4454
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4455
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4456
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4457
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4458
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4459
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4460
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4461
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4462
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4463
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4464
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4465
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4466
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4467
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4468
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4469
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4470
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4471
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4472
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4473
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4474
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4475
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4476
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4477
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4478
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4479
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4480
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4481
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4482
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4483
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4484
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4485
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4486
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4487
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4488
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4489
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4490
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4491
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4492
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4493
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4494
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4495
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4496
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4497
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4498
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4499
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4500
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4501
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4502
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4503
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4504
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4505
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4506
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4507
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4508
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4509
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4510
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4511
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4512
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4513
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4514
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4515
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4516
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4517
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4518
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4519
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4520
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4521
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4522
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4523
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4524
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4525
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4526
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4527
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4528
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4529
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4531
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Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4532
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Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4533
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Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4534
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Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4535
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Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4536
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Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4537
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Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4538
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Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4539
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Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4540
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Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4541
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Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4542
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Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4543
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Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4544
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Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4545
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Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4546
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Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4547
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Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4548
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Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4549
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Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4550
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Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4551
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Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4552
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Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4553
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Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4554
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Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4555
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Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4556
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Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4557
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Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4558
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Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4559
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Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4560
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Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4561
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Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4562
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Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4563
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Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4564
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Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4565
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Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4566
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Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4567
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Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4568
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Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4569
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Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4570
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Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4571
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Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4572
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Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4573
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Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4574
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Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4575
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Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4576
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Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4577
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Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4578
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Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4579
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Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4580
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Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4581
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Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4582
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Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4583
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Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4584
02:26:19,960 --> 02:26:20,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4585
02:26:20,960 --> 02:26:21,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4586
02:26:21,960 --> 02:26:22,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4587
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Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4588
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Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4589
02:26:24,960 --> 02:26:25,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4590
02:26:25,960 --> 02:26:26,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4591
02:26:26,960 --> 02:26:27,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4592
02:26:27,960 --> 02:26:28,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4593
02:26:28,960 --> 02:26:29,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4594
02:26:29,960 --> 02:26:30,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4595
02:26:30,960 --> 02:26:31,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4596
02:26:31,960 --> 02:26:32,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4597
02:26:32,960 --> 02:26:33,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4598
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Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4599
02:26:34,960 --> 02:26:35,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4600
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Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4601
02:26:36,960 --> 02:26:37,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4602
02:26:37,960 --> 02:26:38,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4603
02:26:38,960 --> 02:26:39,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4604
02:26:39,960 --> 02:26:40,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4605
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Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4606
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Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4607
02:26:42,960 --> 02:26:43,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4608
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Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4609
02:26:44,960 --> 02:26:45,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4610
02:26:45,960 --> 02:26:46,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4611
02:26:46,960 --> 02:26:47,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4612
02:26:47,960 --> 02:26:48,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4613
02:26:48,960 --> 02:26:49,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4614
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Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4615
02:26:50,960 --> 02:26:51,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4616
02:26:51,960 --> 02:26:52,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4617
02:26:52,960 --> 02:26:53,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4618
02:26:53,960 --> 02:26:54,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4619
02:26:54,960 --> 02:26:55,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4620
02:26:55,960 --> 02:26:56,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4621
02:26:56,960 --> 02:26:57,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4622
02:26:57,960 --> 02:26:58,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4623
02:26:58,960 --> 02:26:59,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4624
02:26:59,960 --> 02:27:00,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4625
02:27:00,960 --> 02:27:01,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4626
02:27:01,960 --> 02:27:02,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4627
02:27:02,960 --> 02:27:03,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4628
02:27:03,960 --> 02:27:04,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4629
02:27:04,960 --> 02:27:05,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4630
02:27:05,960 --> 02:27:06,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4631
02:27:06,960 --> 02:27:07,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4632
02:27:07,960 --> 02:27:08,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4633
02:27:08,960 --> 02:27:09,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4634
02:27:09,960 --> 02:27:10,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4635
02:27:10,960 --> 02:27:11,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4636
02:27:11,960 --> 02:27:12,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4637
02:27:12,960 --> 02:27:13,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4638
02:27:13,960 --> 02:27:14,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4639
02:27:14,960 --> 02:27:15,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4640
02:27:15,960 --> 02:27:16,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4641
02:27:16,960 --> 02:27:17,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4642
02:27:17,960 --> 02:27:18,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4643
02:27:18,960 --> 02:27:19,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4644
02:27:19,960 --> 02:27:20,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4645
02:27:20,960 --> 02:27:21,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4646
02:27:21,960 --> 02:27:22,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4647
02:27:22,960 --> 02:27:23,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4648
02:27:23,960 --> 02:27:24,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4649
02:27:24,960 --> 02:27:25,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4650
02:27:25,960 --> 02:27:26,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4651
02:27:26,960 --> 02:27:27,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4652
02:27:27,960 --> 02:27:28,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4653
02:27:28,960 --> 02:27:29,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4654
02:27:29,960 --> 02:27:30,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4655
02:27:30,960 --> 02:27:31,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4656
02:27:31,960 --> 02:27:32,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4657
02:27:32,960 --> 02:27:33,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4658
02:27:33,960 --> 02:27:34,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4659
02:27:34,960 --> 02:27:35,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4660
02:27:35,960 --> 02:27:36,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4661
02:27:36,960 --> 02:27:37,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4662
02:27:37,960 --> 02:27:38,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4663
02:27:38,960 --> 02:27:39,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4664
02:27:39,960 --> 02:27:40,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4665
02:27:40,960 --> 02:27:41,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4666
02:27:41,960 --> 02:27:42,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4667
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Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4668
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Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4669
02:27:44,960 --> 02:27:45,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4670
02:27:45,960 --> 02:27:46,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4671
02:27:46,960 --> 02:27:47,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4672
02:27:47,960 --> 02:27:48,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4673
02:27:48,960 --> 02:27:49,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4674
02:27:49,960 --> 02:27:50,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4675
02:27:50,960 --> 02:27:51,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4676
02:27:51,960 --> 02:27:52,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4677
02:27:52,960 --> 02:27:53,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4678
02:27:53,960 --> 02:27:54,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4679
02:27:54,960 --> 02:27:55,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4680
02:27:55,960 --> 02:27:56,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4681
02:27:56,960 --> 02:27:57,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4682
02:27:57,960 --> 02:27:58,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4683
02:27:58,960 --> 02:27:59,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4684
02:27:59,960 --> 02:28:00,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4685
02:28:00,960 --> 02:28:01,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4686
02:28:01,960 --> 02:28:02,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4687
02:28:02,960 --> 02:28:03,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4688
02:28:03,960 --> 02:28:05,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4689
02:28:05,960 --> 02:28:06,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4690
02:28:06,960 --> 02:28:07,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4691
02:28:07,960 --> 02:28:14,960
Mid mid July day you're inside this fucking building it's crammed there's a lot of people in there as well.

4692
02:28:14,960 --> 02:28:15,960
Yeah.

4693
02:28:15,960 --> 02:28:36,960
Reino there's a lot a lot there's a lot of explanation going on you know perspiration explanation again I just hope that someone has has put a fucking Glade plug in in one of the plugs down its corner of the room or even there's a window that hopefully there's a window or a bit of an air con scenario as well because.

4694
02:28:36,960 --> 02:28:37,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4695
02:28:37,960 --> 02:28:38,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4696
02:28:38,960 --> 02:28:39,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4697
02:28:39,960 --> 02:28:40,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4698
02:28:40,960 --> 02:28:41,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4699
02:28:41,960 --> 02:28:42,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4700
02:28:42,960 --> 02:28:43,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4701
02:28:43,960 --> 02:28:44,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4702
02:28:44,960 --> 02:28:45,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4703
02:28:45,960 --> 02:28:46,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4704
02:28:46,960 --> 02:28:47,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4705
02:28:47,960 --> 02:28:48,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4706
02:28:48,960 --> 02:28:49,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4707
02:28:49,960 --> 02:28:50,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4708
02:28:50,960 --> 02:28:51,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4709
02:28:51,960 --> 02:28:52,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4710
02:28:52,960 --> 02:28:53,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4711
02:28:53,960 --> 02:28:54,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4712
02:28:54,960 --> 02:28:55,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4713
02:28:55,960 --> 02:28:56,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4714
02:28:56,960 --> 02:28:57,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4715
02:28:57,960 --> 02:28:58,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4716
02:28:58,960 --> 02:28:59,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4717
02:28:59,960 --> 02:28:59,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4718
02:28:59,960 --> 02:28:59,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4719
02:28:59,960 --> 02:28:59,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4720
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Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4721
02:29:00,960 --> 02:29:01,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4722
02:29:01,960 --> 02:29:02,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4723
02:29:02,960 --> 02:29:03,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4724
02:29:03,960 --> 02:29:04,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4725
02:29:04,960 --> 02:29:04,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4726
02:29:04,960 --> 02:29:04,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4727
02:29:04,960 --> 02:29:05,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4728
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Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4729
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Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4730
02:29:07,960 --> 02:29:08,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4731
02:29:08,960 --> 02:29:09,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4732
02:29:09,960 --> 02:29:10,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4733
02:29:10,960 --> 02:29:11,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4734
02:29:11,960 --> 02:29:13,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4735
02:29:13,960 --> 02:29:26,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4736
02:29:26,960 --> 02:29:27,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4737
02:29:27,960 --> 02:29:28,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4738
02:29:28,960 --> 02:29:29,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4739
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Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4740
02:29:30,960 --> 02:29:31,960
Sean Thornton thanks very much.

4741
02:29:31,960 --> 02:29:34,360
And it depends really

4742
02:29:34,360 --> 02:29:36,740
Like some of our contractors might do

4743
02:29:36,740 --> 02:29:38,480
Eight one half hour shows in a year

4744
02:29:38,480 --> 02:29:39,160
And that's it

4745
02:29:39,160 --> 02:29:42,360
But you wouldn't normally deal with the director in general

4746
02:29:42,360 --> 02:29:42,680
No, no

4747
02:29:42,680 --> 02:29:44,300
And I was saying there

4748
02:29:44,300 --> 02:29:46,720
You'd want some air con in there

4749
02:29:46,720 --> 02:29:48,860
And then Owen Fortune in the chat says

4750
02:29:48,860 --> 02:29:50,300
Air con

4751
02:29:50,300 --> 02:29:52,940
More like con air

4752
02:29:52,940 --> 02:29:59,200
Thanks very much

4753
02:29:59,200 --> 02:30:01,020
Owen Fortune

4754
02:30:01,020 --> 02:30:01,760
Thank you very much

4755
02:30:01,760 --> 02:30:02,640
We've been told

4756
02:30:02,640 --> 02:30:04,120
No, absolutely not

4757
02:30:04,120 --> 02:30:06,260
That was only one person had an overview of all of this

4758
02:30:06,260 --> 02:30:06,860
Couldn't have been

4759
02:30:06,860 --> 02:30:07,600
Couldn't have been

4760
02:30:07,600 --> 02:30:09,800
And that's why I find this whole thing so bizarre

4761
02:30:09,800 --> 02:30:11,140
But in relation to

4762
02:30:11,140 --> 02:30:12,500
It's so bizarre

4763
02:30:12,500 --> 02:30:16,060
Some guys might just have a one hour radio contract

4764
02:30:16,060 --> 02:30:17,260
Some would have a TV contract

4765
02:30:17,260 --> 02:30:19,020
Some might have a bit of radio and a bit of TV

4766
02:30:19,020 --> 02:30:20,960
And so it would depend

4767
02:30:20,960 --> 02:30:24,340
Head of TV, under head of TV

4768
02:30:24,340 --> 02:30:27,280
Executive, MD of TV, MD of radio

4769
02:30:27,280 --> 02:30:29,260
It would just depend where it would sit

4770
02:30:29,260 --> 02:30:31,560
And then you'd have an overall like Alan Tyler

4771
02:30:31,560 --> 02:30:35,840
And he was saying like he's head of entertainment

4772
02:30:35,840 --> 02:30:37,000
Sorry, I have very little time

4773
02:30:37,000 --> 02:30:37,760
Sorry, sorry, sorry

4774
02:30:37,760 --> 02:30:38,260
So I'm just saying

4775
02:30:38,260 --> 02:30:39,360
There's so many people

4776
02:30:39,360 --> 02:30:41,100
Like there's 1,800 people in the organisation

4777
02:30:41,100 --> 02:30:42,140
So I think something

4778
02:30:42,140 --> 02:30:42,940
You don't operate for 1,800 people in the organisation

4779
02:30:42,940 --> 02:30:44,640
I think something has kicked in

4780
02:30:44,640 --> 02:30:47,220
I think something has kicked in there with Noel

4781
02:30:47,220 --> 02:30:48,920
Look at the fans are flying around

4782
02:30:48,920 --> 02:30:50,920
There's a lot of touching of the face

4783
02:30:50,920 --> 02:30:53,180
No, absolutely not

4784
02:30:53,180 --> 02:30:54,180
That was only one person

4785
02:30:54,180 --> 02:30:55,520
Who had an overview of all of this

4786
02:30:55,520 --> 02:30:56,060
Couldn't have been

4787
02:30:56,060 --> 02:30:56,780
Couldn't have been

4788
02:30:56,780 --> 02:30:57,180
Couldn't have been

4789
02:30:57,180 --> 02:30:58,980
And that's why I find this whole thing so bizarre

4790
02:30:58,980 --> 02:31:00,320
But in relation to

4791
02:31:00,320 --> 02:31:05,160
So some guys might just have a 1 hour radio contract

4792
02:31:05,160 --> 02:31:06,360
Some would have a TV contract

4793
02:31:06,360 --> 02:31:08,100
Some might have a bit of radio and a bit of TV

4794
02:31:08,100 --> 02:31:10,060
And so it would depend

4795
02:31:10,060 --> 02:31:13,440
Head of TV, under head of TV

4796
02:31:13,440 --> 02:31:16,360
Executive, MD of TV, MD of radio

4797
02:31:16,360 --> 02:31:18,380
It would just depend where it would sit

4798
02:31:18,380 --> 02:31:19,900
And then you'd have an overall like

4799
02:31:19,900 --> 02:31:22,220
And so it would depend

4800
02:31:22,220 --> 02:31:43,600
Head of TV, under head of TV, executive, MD of TV, MD of radio

4801
02:31:43,600 --> 02:31:51,980
And so it would depend where it would sit

4802
02:31:51,980 --> 02:32:02,380
And then you'd have an overall like a toddler

4803
02:32:02,380 --> 02:32:26,980
NK Ultra

4804
02:32:26,980 --> 02:32:30,000
NK Ultra, John

4805
02:32:30,000 --> 02:32:37,000
John?

4806
02:32:37,000 --> 02:32:37,600
John?

4807
02:32:37,600 --> 02:32:38,320
John?

4808
02:32:54,880 --> 02:32:55,360
John?

4809
02:32:57,940 --> 02:32:59,040
Where are you, John?

4810
02:32:59,100 --> 02:33:00,100
We're in the committee room

4811
02:33:00,100 --> 02:33:03,120
Yeah, I'm down the back

4812
02:33:03,120 --> 02:33:05,620
The boys are doing

4813
02:33:05,620 --> 02:33:09,840
The boys are playing a blinder, John

4814
02:33:09,840 --> 02:33:13,100
Yeah, don't worry

4815
02:33:13,100 --> 02:33:16,620
No shit's gonna come to light

4816
02:33:16,620 --> 02:33:30,960
Powered by the all-player, John

4817
02:33:30,960 --> 02:33:45,000
Powered by the all-player, John

4818
02:33:45,000 --> 02:33:48,920
version 2.6 9.1

4819
02:33:48,920 --> 02:33:51,880
don't worry the Oireachtas

4820
02:33:51,880 --> 02:33:53,380
the Oireachtas player is

4821
02:33:53,380 --> 02:33:54,660
pretty tight

4822
02:33:54,660 --> 02:33:57,500
it's a lot better than the RTE player

4823
02:33:57,500 --> 02:33:59,980
it's stable, it's a stable release

4824
02:33:59,980 --> 02:34:00,360
John

4825
02:34:00,360 --> 02:34:09,900
it's so stable

4826
02:34:09,900 --> 02:34:34,080
Tobbs is playing a blinder John

4827
02:34:34,080 --> 02:34:36,400
don't worry

4828
02:34:36,400 --> 02:34:38,860
he was well breathed before we went in

4829
02:34:38,860 --> 02:34:43,000
how's it going with yourself anyway?

4830
02:34:45,400 --> 02:34:47,220
good, good, good

4831
02:34:47,220 --> 02:34:52,960
apparently there's an unidentified flying object

4832
02:34:52,960 --> 02:34:54,720
inside the committee room at the moment

4833
02:34:54,720 --> 02:34:57,620
the UFO John

4834
02:34:57,620 --> 02:35:02,800
cold John John

4835
02:35:02,800 --> 02:35:05,280
cold John

4836
02:35:05,280 --> 02:35:09,420
temporary water bottle John

4837
02:35:09,420 --> 02:35:10,540
check that out

4838
02:35:10,540 --> 02:35:12,960
it's very sustainable

4839
02:35:12,960 --> 02:35:15,080
made of paper

4840
02:35:15,080 --> 02:35:19,060
Rubot, thanks very much John

4841
02:35:19,060 --> 02:35:21,340
thanks very much Rubus, Rubot

4842
02:35:21,340 --> 02:35:30,040
John Denver John.

4843
02:35:36,040 --> 02:35:46,720
They call him the Toy Man.

4844
02:35:47,340 --> 02:35:49,080
Bit of bad news.

4845
02:35:50,520 --> 02:35:53,900
Nobody let it slip that he was known as the Toy Man.

4846
02:36:19,700 --> 02:36:45,460
There's a single-use plastic bottle in front of Tubberdy.

4847
02:36:45,460 --> 02:36:49,080
That is very bad optics.

4848
02:36:50,560 --> 02:36:53,840
Grant Thornton is going to be on to you about that one.

4849
02:36:53,840 --> 02:37:09,180
Sorry, just got to run to the loo there, guys.

4850
02:37:09,300 --> 02:37:12,560
I drank probably about two litres of water there since we started.

4851
02:37:12,560 --> 02:37:15,620
I went to Grant Thornton and discussed everything with him.

4852
02:37:16,360 --> 02:37:20,860
On 23rd of June, it was Ortiz's first statement and then 26th of June.

4853
02:37:21,400 --> 02:37:26,020
We only received the report on 26th of June.

4854
02:37:26,020 --> 02:37:27,780
We didn't get a copy of the report.

4855
02:37:27,780 --> 02:37:33,960
When did you first alert Mr. Tubberdy that the report was being carried out?

4856
02:37:34,160 --> 02:37:35,740
And then perhaps we may have had concerns.

4857
02:37:35,740 --> 02:37:38,300
Well, on the 22nd of June?

4858
02:37:38,540 --> 02:37:41,540
The 22nd of June when the statement came out from RTE.

4859
02:37:42,540 --> 02:37:45,020
The statement and then they released the report.

4860
02:37:45,120 --> 02:37:46,120
We didn't even have the report.

4861
02:37:46,540 --> 02:37:46,620
Yeah.

4862
02:37:46,920 --> 02:37:48,640
And so at that stage, that's what we were saying.

4863
02:37:48,840 --> 02:37:50,600
So that happened on the Thursday.

4864
02:37:51,180 --> 02:37:56,220
And then it was four days later before they put them the correction saying that there was no wrongdoing on behalf of Ryan Trubberdy ourselves.

4865
02:37:56,480 --> 02:37:58,560
And then at that stage, Ryan was off air.

4866
02:37:59,300 --> 02:38:00,060
And so the whole thing.

4867
02:38:00,180 --> 02:38:03,940
So had they, what did you say, not be so hasty?

4868
02:38:04,400 --> 02:38:12,100
If they hadn't rushed everything out, 99% of this whole thing wouldn't be an issue because we would have given them everything they wanted if they simply asked questions.

4869
02:38:12,260 --> 02:38:16,820
The reason I want to ask you this question, I think it's for your own benefit, Mr. Trubberdy, right?

4870
02:38:16,860 --> 02:38:19,480
And I know that you may feel I'm being some way indignant with you, but I'm not.

4871
02:38:19,580 --> 02:38:19,980
Not at all.

4872
02:38:20,120 --> 02:38:21,380
I totally understand what you're saying.

4873
02:38:21,400 --> 02:38:27,460
The reason I'm asking it is because it's crucial to us understanding and verifying that your information is correct.

4874
02:38:27,800 --> 02:38:30,340
It was nothing to do with your decision to step down from the late show.

4875
02:38:30,640 --> 02:38:30,840
Sorry.

4876
02:38:30,940 --> 02:38:31,560
That's why I'm asking.

4877
02:38:31,580 --> 02:38:32,860
You're trying to clarify that the late is.

4878
02:38:32,860 --> 02:38:33,280
No, no, no.

4879
02:38:33,700 --> 02:38:34,380
That's clarified.

4880
02:38:34,640 --> 02:38:35,340
I'm content.

4881
02:38:36,020 --> 02:38:41,060
The next thing I want to move on to is in relation to the deal surrounding Reynolds.

4882
02:38:41,640 --> 02:38:44,020
So in 2020, the first year of the deal, correct?

4883
02:38:44,200 --> 02:38:45,620
I'm going to say it was 2021.

4884
02:38:46,580 --> 02:38:47,040
Wasn't that right?

4885
02:38:47,340 --> 02:38:47,440
Yeah.

4886
02:38:48,380 --> 02:38:51,760
Unorthodox pronunciation of Renault there from your man.

4887
02:38:51,820 --> 02:38:52,740
He said Reynolds.

4888
02:38:53,100 --> 02:38:53,740
He's got a tissue.

4889
02:38:53,900 --> 02:38:53,960
Sorry.

4890
02:38:53,960 --> 02:38:57,040
Obviously with COVID, there was no events on 20 or 21.

4891
02:38:57,180 --> 02:39:03,000
So the first lot of events actually happened in 22 when we had the first road shows out in

4892
02:39:03,000 --> 02:39:04,420
Cork, Dublin.

4893
02:39:04,420 --> 02:39:06,000
And in 20.

4894
02:39:06,100 --> 02:39:11,320
So at what stage were you informed by Reynolds that they were not going to continue on with

4895
02:39:11,320 --> 02:39:18,420
their part of the deal in relation to the pandemic, the outbreak of the pandemic and their withdrawal from that?

4896
02:39:18,640 --> 02:39:23,400
And subsequently RTE stepping in and providing the funding to fill in.

4897
02:39:23,400 --> 02:39:28,380
Guys, I haven't been keeping up, how are you getting on OSW, with this scandal in general.

4898
02:39:28,500 --> 02:39:32,160
Why is Tuberti being grilled?

4899
02:39:32,360 --> 02:39:34,960
Surely it's the RT lads paying him too much.

4900
02:39:35,440 --> 02:39:37,540
Well, I can answer that question there.

4901
02:39:38,660 --> 02:39:45,300
People are eager to know why when the publication of the salaries were dished out every year.

4902
02:39:45,440 --> 02:39:47,240
Thank you very much there, Katie in rush.

4903
02:39:48,700 --> 02:39:51,660
Why he didn't say, hang on a second.

4904
02:39:52,120 --> 02:39:53,820
That's less than what I'm actually getting.

4905
02:39:54,480 --> 02:39:57,620
So have we even had any explanation as of yet?

4906
02:39:57,740 --> 02:40:04,180
I've been too busy trying to put a PNG image of a baseball cap on many people, whilst repeatedly

4907
02:40:04,180 --> 02:40:06,740
playing a dark, ominous drone sound.

4908
02:40:06,740 --> 02:40:14,800
It was maybe marginally funny the first time I did it, but by the 50th time, it had lost its edge.

4909
02:40:14,920 --> 02:40:19,300
Now, in doing that, I have missed a lot of what's been said.

4910
02:40:19,660 --> 02:40:22,700
Nobody has actually answered any questions as of yet.

4911
02:40:23,200 --> 02:40:28,740
Like, the smoking gun question, the big question, the big question is...

4912
02:40:28,740 --> 02:40:30,380
Here we go.

4913
02:40:30,580 --> 02:40:31,440
He's asking it.

4914
02:40:31,440 --> 02:40:36,180
Going into the pandemic, and we all know how difficult it was, and you broadcast throughout

4915
02:40:36,180 --> 02:40:43,600
it, with great admiration and respect from the population, but did you in any way say to

4916
02:40:43,600 --> 02:40:47,080
yourself, this is a dangerous situation, because the published figures in relation pertaining

4917
02:40:47,080 --> 02:40:52,520
to my salary that have been published in newspapers, I think the Irish Independent were publishing those

4918
02:40:52,520 --> 02:40:56,380
figures, were not reflective of your actual take-home pay.

4919
02:40:56,820 --> 02:40:59,980
And I have heard the evidence you provided and what you've said.

4920
02:41:00,220 --> 02:41:00,400
Yes.

4921
02:41:00,480 --> 02:41:01,220
The smoking gun.

4922
02:41:01,220 --> 02:41:04,220
At the end of the day, there was a three-partoid agreement there involving the national broadcaster

4923
02:41:04,220 --> 02:41:07,220
in RTÉ with Reynaud and yourselves.

4924
02:41:07,840 --> 02:41:12,540
But did you not ask yourself the question, maybe it's just not wise for me to be taking this

4925
02:41:12,540 --> 02:41:16,060
money at this point in time, considering what was going on in the country?

4926
02:41:16,440 --> 02:41:16,660
Yep.

4927
02:41:16,700 --> 02:41:20,880
I think it's a fair observation, and I probably should have been a bit more inquisitive about

4928
02:41:20,880 --> 02:41:21,360
these things.

4929
02:41:21,720 --> 02:41:23,580
Never ask any questions in relation to that.

4930
02:41:23,760 --> 02:41:24,700
I say what I say.

4931
02:41:24,760 --> 02:41:25,700
I should have been more inquisitive.

4932
02:41:26,060 --> 02:41:26,920
It's a fair point.

4933
02:41:26,920 --> 02:41:28,380
Deputy, can I just answer that?

4934
02:41:29,520 --> 02:41:30,200
Another...

4935
02:41:30,200 --> 02:41:31,540
Look at these tells.

4936
02:41:31,800 --> 02:41:35,840
Look, I watch endless amounts of YouTube fucking body language experts.

4937
02:41:36,740 --> 02:41:38,800
Look what Noel Kelly does here after Tubbity's...

4938
02:41:38,800 --> 02:41:39,540
Tubbity's...

4939
02:41:39,540 --> 02:41:39,940
That was a...

4940
02:41:39,940 --> 02:41:42,700
That was a real crap answer from Tubbity.

4941
02:41:42,780 --> 02:41:43,760
I should have been more inquisitive.

4942
02:41:44,540 --> 02:41:45,020
COVID happened.

4943
02:41:45,180 --> 02:41:47,940
So this was starting in 2012.

4944
02:41:48,280 --> 02:41:48,520
It started...

4945
02:41:48,520 --> 02:41:50,100
But I'm just...

4946
02:41:50,100 --> 02:41:54,220
Look, there we go.

4947
02:41:55,580 --> 02:41:56,400
Answer there.

4948
02:41:56,800 --> 02:41:57,520
That's known...

4949
02:41:57,520 --> 02:41:57,760
Answer there.

4950
02:41:58,180 --> 02:41:59,700
That's known as an adapter.

4951
02:42:00,920 --> 02:42:02,780
You watch those fucking body language guys.

4952
02:42:03,980 --> 02:42:05,120
That's an adapter.

4953
02:42:06,180 --> 02:42:09,640
When people are trying to fucking make stuff...

4954
02:42:09,640 --> 02:42:10,760
Not make stuff up, sorry.

4955
02:42:11,000 --> 02:42:13,000
When people are under pressure...

4956
02:42:14,740 --> 02:42:16,840
These kind of things.

4957
02:42:16,960 --> 02:42:18,020
Face touching and all that.

4958
02:42:18,200 --> 02:42:19,000
It's...

4959
02:42:20,000 --> 02:42:24,940
It's to highlight maybe someone who's having a bit of a...

4960
02:42:24,940 --> 02:42:26,200
An uncomfortable time.

4961
02:42:27,420 --> 02:42:27,900
Toymaster.

4962
02:42:30,300 --> 02:42:31,900
This contract was written.

4963
02:42:32,440 --> 02:42:34,560
We did discuss it with the RT executive board.

4964
02:42:34,860 --> 02:42:36,540
They were not very forthcoming with answers.

4965
02:42:37,100 --> 02:42:38,440
I know there is a very...

4966
02:42:38,440 --> 02:42:41,900
A very wide chasm between the information that you've provided us to today.

4967
02:42:42,600 --> 02:42:44,740
I think somebody has farted in there.

4968
02:42:44,840 --> 02:42:46,540
I guessed it about 10 minutes ago.

4969
02:42:46,620 --> 02:42:48,400
I said that it's going to be a flatulent room.

4970
02:42:48,460 --> 02:42:49,560
A lot of coffee's been drinking.

4971
02:42:49,560 --> 02:42:53,140
And there's a lady just behind on the laptop there.

4972
02:42:53,240 --> 02:42:54,760
It looks like she's just smelled a fart.

4973
02:42:54,920 --> 02:42:55,060
Look.

4974
02:42:55,180 --> 02:42:55,860
Look at the face here.

4975
02:42:55,860 --> 02:42:56,800
Very forthcoming with answers.

4976
02:42:57,420 --> 02:42:58,780
I know there is a very...

4977
02:42:58,780 --> 02:43:01,580
A very wide chasm between the information that you've provided.

4978
02:43:01,780 --> 02:43:02,020
Look.

4979
02:43:02,260 --> 02:43:02,720
Have you...

4980
02:43:02,720 --> 02:43:03,520
Have you farted?

4981
02:43:03,800 --> 02:43:04,560
That's what she's saying.

4982
02:43:04,740 --> 02:43:06,220
...with us today.

4983
02:43:06,420 --> 02:43:07,040
And what they've given.

4984
02:43:07,180 --> 02:43:09,060
A chasm between the information that you've provided.

4985
02:43:09,420 --> 02:43:11,180
A very wide chasm between the information.

4986
02:43:11,320 --> 02:43:11,540
Look.

4987
02:43:12,540 --> 02:43:13,420
Pure disgust.

4988
02:43:13,820 --> 02:43:15,900
And it really doesn't surprise me one bit.

4989
02:43:15,980 --> 02:43:17,480
Because as mentioned.

4990
02:43:17,940 --> 02:43:19,860
It's a very humid room.

4991
02:43:20,360 --> 02:43:21,220
A lot of people in there.

4992
02:43:21,260 --> 02:43:22,720
A lot of coffee's being drank.

4993
02:43:23,240 --> 02:43:23,780
There's no...

4994
02:43:23,780 --> 02:43:24,820
No bathroom breaks.

4995
02:43:24,860 --> 02:43:26,400
I haven't seen anybody go to the bathroom.

4996
02:43:26,780 --> 02:43:27,640
And then you result...

4997
02:43:27,640 --> 02:43:29,360
That results in a situation like this.

4998
02:43:29,420 --> 02:43:31,320
Where somebody has to fucking work.

4999
02:43:31,620 --> 02:43:32,560
Through...

5000
02:43:33,500 --> 02:43:34,560
A horrible...

5001
02:43:34,560 --> 02:43:35,320
Environment.

5002
02:43:35,540 --> 02:43:35,760
You know.

5003
02:43:35,840 --> 02:43:36,680
And that's...

5004
02:43:36,680 --> 02:43:37,780
Tantamount to fucking...

5005
02:43:37,780 --> 02:43:39,180
That's a HR situation.

5006
02:43:39,300 --> 02:43:40,940
I'd go to the fucking boss with that one.

5007
02:43:41,100 --> 02:43:43,220
Say this is not a great condition for me to be working in.

5008
02:43:43,220 --> 02:43:44,980
...that you've provided us today...

5009
02:43:44,980 --> 02:43:45,700
With us today.

5010
02:43:45,840 --> 02:43:47,240
And what they've given us previously.

5011
02:43:47,760 --> 02:43:48,500
But I want...

5012
02:43:48,500 --> 02:43:49,000
Still there.

5013
02:43:49,000 --> 02:43:53,140
Who on the executive board of RT was involved in those pay negotiations?

5014
02:43:53,920 --> 02:43:54,920
Who on the executive board?

5015
02:43:54,920 --> 02:43:56,220
This was present and involved.

5016
02:43:57,340 --> 02:44:00,300
The number of presenters you represented RT is at three of the top ten.

5017
02:44:00,820 --> 02:44:02,020
Many in total do you represent?

5018
02:44:02,160 --> 02:44:02,460
Many...

5019
02:44:02,460 --> 02:44:04,420
Brian Stanley TD.

5020
02:44:06,240 --> 02:44:08,660
It's Brian Stanley TD.

5021
02:44:10,400 --> 02:44:12,660
Leashin' awfully...

5022
02:44:12,660 --> 02:44:13,680
Oh lord.

5023
02:44:14,540 --> 02:44:15,200
Is it 20?

5024
02:44:15,440 --> 02:44:15,920
No.

5025
02:44:16,040 --> 02:44:16,340
No.

5026
02:44:16,340 --> 02:44:16,840
Not at all.

5027
02:44:17,200 --> 02:44:19,240
The ones that we really represent...

5028
02:44:19,240 --> 02:44:21,120
Don't the lady answer.

5029
02:44:21,260 --> 02:44:22,280
I'm asking you straight a question.

5030
02:44:22,680 --> 02:44:24,580
We would represent full...

5031
02:44:24,580 --> 02:44:26,900
So full contract would be somebody who had TV and radio.

5032
02:44:27,080 --> 02:44:27,200
Yeah.

5033
02:44:28,160 --> 02:44:28,900
That's three.

5034
02:44:29,280 --> 02:44:31,900
And then there would be other people who might just do...

5035
02:44:31,900 --> 02:44:33,780
A one-off series or whatever.

5036
02:44:33,880 --> 02:44:34,420
Is it a dozen?

5037
02:44:35,200 --> 02:44:37,960
Thank you very much there to...

5038
02:44:37,960 --> 02:44:38,240
It's six.

5039
02:44:38,840 --> 02:44:39,360
Ronan.

5040
02:44:40,060 --> 02:44:42,280
Like I'd say, three full-time...

5041
02:44:42,280 --> 02:44:43,440
A rock to sharts.

5042
02:44:43,580 --> 02:44:44,160
Thank you very much.

5043
02:44:44,660 --> 02:44:45,420
Ronan who says,

5044
02:44:45,540 --> 02:44:47,540
Everybody wanted a piece of this, Patrick.

5045
02:44:47,820 --> 02:44:49,820
No, but your own trade, like your background in that.

5046
02:44:49,960 --> 02:44:51,140
Are you a negotiator?

5047
02:44:51,680 --> 02:44:52,500
Are you a consultant?

5048
02:44:53,080 --> 02:44:54,660
What type of work have you done?

5049
02:44:54,960 --> 02:44:55,380
What area?

5050
02:44:56,100 --> 02:44:58,760
My background would be marketing and brand.

5051
02:44:59,120 --> 02:44:59,360
Sales.

5052
02:44:59,900 --> 02:45:01,040
And sales.

5053
02:45:01,140 --> 02:45:02,720
And I see people as brands.

5054
02:45:03,420 --> 02:45:08,180
And how you take a young talent.

5055
02:45:08,480 --> 02:45:10,820
And talent to me is like...

5056
02:45:10,820 --> 02:45:11,600
It's every...

5057
02:45:11,600 --> 02:45:14,160
Talent to me is the person behind reception.

5058
02:45:14,300 --> 02:45:15,020
It makes you feel like today,

5059
02:45:15,160 --> 02:45:16,760
the people that make us feel welcome when you come in.

5060
02:45:16,820 --> 02:45:17,420
That's a talent.

5061
02:45:17,780 --> 02:45:19,800
The camera people, the floor people.

5062
02:45:20,180 --> 02:45:22,320
Talent to me isn't like a rock god.

5063
02:45:22,320 --> 02:45:26,960
It's not like a singer or a Tom Cruise or stuff.

5064
02:45:26,960 --> 02:45:27,700
We agree.

5065
02:45:27,700 --> 02:45:28,060
We agree on that one.

5066
02:45:28,400 --> 02:45:30,580
But just in relation to your...

5067
02:45:30,580 --> 02:45:31,140
Your type.

5068
02:45:31,600 --> 02:45:33,860
It's not like a...

5069
02:45:33,860 --> 02:45:34,160
Thank you.

5070
02:45:34,320 --> 02:45:35,040
It's...

5071
02:45:35,040 --> 02:45:35,040
It's...

5072
02:45:35,040 --> 02:45:48,200
It's not like a...

5073
02:45:48,200 --> 02:45:48,480
Thank you.

5074
02:45:48,480 --> 02:45:48,480
Thank you.

5075
02:45:48,480 --> 02:45:48,680
Thank you.

5076
02:45:48,680 --> 02:45:49,520
- I'm a singer.

5077
02:45:49,520 --> 02:45:50,340
- Cadbury's.

5078
02:45:50,340 --> 02:45:52,940
- Yeah, chocolate, chocolate, okay.

5079
02:45:52,940 --> 02:45:55,060
Thank you, thank you.

5080
02:45:55,060 --> 02:45:56,440
- Oh! - Thank you.

5081
02:45:56,440 --> 02:45:57,360
- That's fine.

5082
02:45:57,360 --> 02:45:58,680
- That was soap anyway. - What was that?

5083
02:45:58,680 --> 02:46:00,120
We made that.

5084
02:46:00,120 --> 02:46:00,960
- Sorry?

5085
02:46:00,960 --> 02:46:02,980
- What kind of goods would you have sold?

5086
02:46:02,980 --> 02:46:04,580
What kind of marketing would you have been involved in?

5087
02:46:04,580 --> 02:46:05,620
- Just briefly.

5088
02:46:05,620 --> 02:46:09,620
- So I have this company, which are, we're--

5089
02:46:09,620 --> 02:46:11,040
- Say, going back before you got involved in RT,

5090
02:46:11,040 --> 02:46:15,300
- Oh, sure, so we're doing NK CMS for 26 years,

5091
02:46:15,300 --> 02:46:17,020
before I worked for Cadbury's.

5092
02:46:17,020 --> 02:46:17,980
- NK Ultra.

5093
02:46:17,980 --> 02:46:18,820
- What we are selling for Cadbury's?

5094
02:46:18,820 --> 02:46:19,640
- Sorry?

5095
02:46:19,640 --> 02:46:21,200
- What we are selling for Cadbury's?

5096
02:46:21,200 --> 02:46:22,040
- Cadbury's?

5097
02:46:22,040 --> 02:46:23,860
- Yeah, chocolate, chocolate, okay.

5098
02:46:23,860 --> 02:46:27,600
Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you.

5099
02:46:27,600 --> 02:46:28,740
That's fine.

5100
02:46:28,740 --> 02:46:29,580
- Soap anyway.

5101
02:46:29,580 --> 02:46:31,580
- That's fine, thank you. - Wasn't soap.

5102
02:46:31,580 --> 02:46:34,100
- And tell me this, your relationship with Dee Forbes.

5103
02:46:34,100 --> 02:46:34,940
- Yes.

5104
02:46:36,140 --> 02:46:38,840
- The senior staff at RT, Dave described that you had

5105
02:46:38,840 --> 02:46:40,840
a very close relationship with Dee Forbes.

5106
02:46:40,840 --> 02:46:41,720
- Yeah, I saw that.

5107
02:46:41,720 --> 02:46:43,480
- Yeah, I did, yeah.

5108
02:46:43,480 --> 02:46:46,900
- A close relationship is in a room with lawyers and accountants,

5109
02:46:46,900 --> 02:46:49,280
and not a cup of tea between you, never had met for lunch,

5110
02:46:49,280 --> 02:46:50,120
never met for dinner.

5111
02:46:50,120 --> 02:46:51,080
I don't know the lady.

5112
02:46:51,080 --> 02:46:52,780
I've always found her to be terribly professional.

5113
02:46:52,780 --> 02:46:54,400
I'm working hard during COVID and everything else.

5114
02:46:54,400 --> 02:46:55,400
I don't know the lady.

5115
02:46:55,400 --> 02:47:00,320
And I would only ever meet in class, in a contract,

5116
02:47:00,320 --> 02:47:02,840
or where we're at, or what can we do?

5117
02:47:02,840 --> 02:47:04,840
You know, so I don't know her.

5118
02:47:04,840 --> 02:47:07,220
- Sorry, I've met her, but I'd like...

5119
02:47:07,220 --> 02:47:12,220
- Yeah, and I know I'm disrespectful to you, but you come from my background selling chocolate.

5120
02:47:12,220 --> 02:47:13,340
- Yeah.

5121
02:47:13,340 --> 02:47:17,220
- And now you're negotiating on behalf of the top stars in the country.

5122
02:47:17,220 --> 02:47:19,220
You know, and great success to you.

5123
02:47:19,220 --> 02:47:33,600
- Why did you not discuss your well-paid employment with Jackie Brosnan?

5124
02:47:33,600 --> 02:47:35,980
- You're well-paid in terms of when you're negotiating.

5125
02:47:35,980 --> 02:47:36,980
- What...

5126
02:47:36,980 --> 02:47:37,980
- With Jackie Brosnan?

5127
02:47:37,980 --> 02:47:40,980
- Tell me briefly what that leverage drives from.

5128
02:47:40,980 --> 02:47:45,980
Because RT have told us previously in this committee room, the Public Accounts Committee, that...

5129
02:47:45,980 --> 02:47:45,980
- Sure.

5130
02:47:45,980 --> 02:47:46,980
- That... - That...

5131
02:47:46,980 --> 02:47:50,980
- Mr. Nopadi and other, you know, very popular stars...

5132
02:47:50,980 --> 02:47:51,480
- Yeah.

5133
02:47:51,480 --> 02:47:52,980
- ...and very good here... - Nintendo Game Boy!

5134
02:47:52,980 --> 02:47:53,980
- ...would walk, right?

5135
02:47:53,980 --> 02:47:56,480
- You have said no, that's not the case here today.

5136
02:47:56,480 --> 02:47:59,480
- So what does that leverage come from? - Don't address with me all the time!

5137
02:47:59,480 --> 02:48:03,860
- So, erm, I'd say exactly where... and... - Tell me he's about to say...

5138
02:48:03,860 --> 02:48:08,860
- I'm gonna just say, I come from a working class background. I come from very, very hard work...

5139
02:48:08,860 --> 02:48:13,740
- I come from a chocolate background. - ...work class background. Both my parents worked very hard.

5140
02:48:13,740 --> 02:48:19,860
And all they ever said to us was, "You work hard, and then you work harder, and if you want something, then you work... then you work hard again."

5141
02:48:19,860 --> 02:48:22,480
- So for me... - I accept that. - So for me...

5142
02:48:22,480 --> 02:48:23,480
- Fucking shit!

5143
02:48:23,480 --> 02:48:25,480
- Shit! Shit childhood!

5144
02:48:25,480 --> 02:48:30,480
- Yeah, you work hard, you work hard again, and then you work hard after that. - Oh, great!

5145
02:48:30,480 --> 02:48:35,480
- When... when... that's life, is it? - Yeah! It's a load of fucking work.

5146
02:48:35,480 --> 02:48:38,480
And then you get a Cadbury's chocolate bar at the end of it. Maybe!

5147
02:48:38,480 --> 02:48:43,480
- I have leverage. I manage people that have no management. I manage people that have no union, that have no representatives.

5148
02:48:43,480 --> 02:48:47,480
- I work with people that have contact only. - Can I cut to the chase? Can I cut to the chase?

5149
02:48:47,480 --> 02:48:51,480
- Sure, sure, sorry, sorry. - Anybody that's ever done a bit of winning and dealing will know this.

5150
02:48:51,480 --> 02:49:03,480
- Right? When you're sitting there, you know, and it's whoever blinks first, right? And you're there, and you're negotiating with the top finance people, or legal people, or indeed with the Director General.

5151
02:49:03,480 --> 02:49:12,480
- Where does that leverage derive from? Because there's a clear contradiction between your position, right? And you come from a background of sales, you know, and they get selling chocolate, and they're not being derived, but that's just...

5152
02:49:12,480 --> 02:49:15,480
- Sure. - And fair play to you. You worked your way up. - Yeah, yeah.

5153
02:49:15,480 --> 02:49:20,480
but you know where does that leverage come from you're not giving me an answer to this

5154
02:49:20,480 --> 02:49:23,600
I don't understand what you mean by leverage I don't understand that

5155
02:49:23,600 --> 02:49:28,100
where does the power in other words you are bartending power you need bartending power

5156
02:49:28,100 --> 02:49:32,020
when you're wheeling and dealing and when you're you know when you're involved in sales

5157
02:49:32,020 --> 02:49:34,040
wheeling and dealing

5158
02:49:34,040 --> 02:49:40,980
he's saying wheeling and dealing makes him sound like a bit of a fucking wide boy

5159
02:49:40,980 --> 02:50:01,400
leveraged I come from a reno background my parents had a five and then worked their way up to a McGann

5160
02:50:01,400 --> 02:50:06,440
then eventually got themselves a lagoon

5161
02:50:06,440 --> 02:50:25,760
script courtesy of asda tesco there thank you asda tesco thank you very much for the script there

5162
02:50:25,760 --> 02:50:32,820
100 million in commercial revenue and in fairness it's a hugely it was a hugely successful commercial

5163
02:50:32,820 --> 02:50:39,740
operation they like in 2001 they took in 148 million in rt purely in commercial they're not licensed so

5164
02:50:39,740 --> 02:50:44,820
it's a it's a big you've outlined that very well and thanks for that so just just in relation to

5165
02:50:44,820 --> 02:50:50,400
some people in rt you know we have looking at some of the documents come across to me that you have

5166
02:50:50,400 --> 02:50:57,460
significant influence and significant power in terms of brian stanley off the way and leash

5167
02:50:57,460 --> 02:51:04,520
the real director general at rt is noel shim fein

5168
02:51:04,520 --> 02:51:15,360
that's what's being said not by somebody not by somebody on the street corner this is by people who are working in rt

5169
02:51:15,360 --> 02:51:22,960
okay it's you know it's so it's so ridiculous we do deals and we and we do contracts okay for for

5170
02:51:22,960 --> 02:51:28,940
our people you know i might be in rte and can i move six times six times in a year you know but

5171
02:51:28,940 --> 02:51:34,880
but equally another adapter guys another adapter can i move to one of those deals for a moment

5172
02:51:34,880 --> 02:51:40,000
just in relation to the renault deal the tripartite deal yourselves renault and rt

5173
02:51:40,000 --> 02:51:49,000
apartheid it's a one-year deal from from october 2020 to december 21 um so we've been told from the

5174
02:51:49,000 --> 02:51:55,460
start that's a three-year deal but it wasn't a three-year deal the taxpayers the taxpayers pocket

5175
02:51:55,460 --> 02:52:00,840
thank you very much read it read it carefully he read it it's a three-year three-year deal i'm gonna

5176
02:52:00,840 --> 02:52:06,620
talk like this the rest is three three your fucking three euro deal then there's nowhere in the contract

5177
02:52:06,620 --> 02:52:12,940
fucking three euro meal deal five-year deal yeah we signed the contract right right and can i ask

5178
02:52:12,940 --> 02:52:20,460
you this and that's and you would you would be used to signing contracts right uh why why did you expect

5179
02:52:20,460 --> 02:52:27,780
why do you not discuss don't obsess with me all the time when this is only a one-year deal again um

5180
02:52:27,780 --> 02:52:33,440
why the relationship is with is with renault and the sponsor i started renault and rte

5181
02:52:33,440 --> 02:52:38,760
and all i actually want them to all i want them to underwrite was that if the sponsor changed her

5182
02:52:38,760 --> 02:52:43,480
legally mr kelly hold on now you're signing the deal and you know that unless it's nailed down in that

5183
02:52:43,480 --> 02:52:50,120
signed on the dotted line right it doesn't stand for anything isn't that correct you know that we we

5184
02:52:50,120 --> 02:52:57,220
we had as i said we created we had a separate contract okay for ryan to do this outside of his radio tv

5185
02:52:57,220 --> 02:53:02,540
and tell me why is there no figure mentioned in in it there is no figure mentioned of 75 000

5186
02:53:02,540 --> 02:53:08,680
well why is that sorry in the pack um in the invoice and the instructions and the instructions

5187
02:53:08,680 --> 02:53:13,640
everything's there i mean you're rubbish to say that they're running do you minimize and they called him the chocolate girl

5188
02:53:13,640 --> 02:53:19,780
the primary document is because he got the best fucking deal for his client

5189
02:53:19,780 --> 02:53:23,500
so they call him the chocolate man

5190
02:53:23,500 --> 02:53:28,660
you figure i'm not signed up for a three-year deal but you're working on the basis that has three-year deals right

5191
02:53:28,660 --> 02:53:32,780
uh wrapped in bits of silver broke it up and swallowed

5192
02:53:32,780 --> 02:53:38,780
why and i haven't heard a clear explanation for this why was this only signed on the 21st of april this year

5193
02:53:38,780 --> 02:53:45,160
when the 10 10 20 hit the fan because it was a working document the first one was supposed to be 20 then 21 22

5194
02:53:45,160 --> 02:53:51,640
so that's that's why to be honest with you it was it was a working document in so far as it was about

5195
02:53:51,640 --> 02:53:57,980
mr kelly you're asking me and the committee and the public to believe here today and just let me tell you what you're asking to believe

5196
02:53:57,980 --> 02:54:03,220
there's asking to believe that you sign that you'll enter into an agreement not

5197
02:54:03,220 --> 02:54:08,440
excuse me not signed to this year right the dairy milk deals

5198
02:54:08,440 --> 02:54:18,000
what uh jack connolly there i heard that when he said the 10 10 20 hit the fan what does that mean when he said the 10 10 20 hit the fan

5199
02:54:18,000 --> 02:54:24,700
what's that the 10 10 20 is that code for is that like cb radio code for shit

5200
02:54:24,700 --> 02:54:31,640
professional agent right and people say you're very successful oh it's fertilizer you mean to tell me that you entered into this

5201
02:54:31,640 --> 02:54:48,940
you did not sell uh neve mccormick signed on 21st of the fourth on behalf of you and mr torbardy 21st of the fourth 23 and can i ask you this an rt never signed it there's no rt signature on it

5202
02:54:48,940 --> 02:54:54,680
and let me just say this here what's also incredible is the second last line in the agreement says

5203
02:54:55,200 --> 02:55:00,380
one signed by all parties disagreement will constitute a legally binding agreement a legal

5204
02:55:00,380 --> 02:55:07,720
a legal document nk ultra is after you he wants to get you a good deal with reno and the boys

5205
02:55:07,720 --> 02:55:13,720
now you were telling me you went along in a winging a prayer with four won't be paying no license thanks

5206
02:55:13,720 --> 02:55:19,480
for the tip in the taxpayers pocket thank you very much signed this year you know no figures mentioned in it

5207
02:55:19,480 --> 02:55:33,340
another exasperated exhalation look at ryan's face he is fucking sick of this at the moment he wants to get out of there but he knows that there's still at least another four hours

5208
02:55:33,340 --> 02:55:39,880
to go here it's it's torturous imagine being ryan in this situation knowing there's four hours to go

5209
02:55:39,880 --> 02:55:45,320
that's exactly the face i'd be making as well let's just rewind there just to hear that exhalation

5210
02:55:45,320 --> 02:55:57,620
contracts you know and i know that you don't sign contracts or you don't enter into agreements or contracts on the basis of a document like that you know that i'm not correct in saying that but rt had brokered the contract

5211
02:55:57,620 --> 02:56:13,740
again the player is it's the undoing of the fucking stream here and brief material provided for today's meeting who'd have thought there'd have been another player in the country that wasn't up to scratch and then if you right click on it we get the

5212
02:56:13,740 --> 02:56:30,340
before i go can i just briefly say just to say uh thank you to the committee for the courtesy which which they've afforded us with their questions today i'm sure there are more pressing issues in the world but at the same time that's not to belittle what we were talking about today thank you for your time and thank you for sharing it

5213
02:56:30,340 --> 02:56:48,780
thank you very much lads

5214
02:56:48,780 --> 02:56:51,720
ah brilliant lads

5215
02:56:51,720 --> 02:56:53,420
bit of lunch

5216
02:56:53,420 --> 02:56:55,520
bit of lunch guys bit of lunch

5217
02:56:55,520 --> 02:56:56,300
bit of lunch

5218
02:56:56,300 --> 02:56:59,780
and a big big big big

5219
02:56:59,780 --> 02:57:00,680
thank you as well

5220
02:57:00,680 --> 02:57:03,640
to Dylan Gaffney there

5221
02:57:03,640 --> 02:57:06,000
Dylan Gaffney thank you very much

5222
02:57:06,000 --> 02:57:07,660
for your beautiful

5223
02:57:07,660 --> 02:57:10,020
beautiful beautiful tip it's been

5224
02:57:10,020 --> 02:57:12,120
um it's been interesting

5225
02:57:12,120 --> 02:57:12,920
Tom has it

5226
02:57:12,920 --> 02:57:16,640
it has been there's been a lot of revelations

5227
02:57:16,640 --> 02:57:18,000
uh Cadbury's chocolate

5228
02:57:18,000 --> 02:57:20,100
was mentioned at some

5229
02:57:20,100 --> 02:57:21,520
stage um

5230
02:57:21,520 --> 02:57:23,980
we had a

5231
02:57:23,980 --> 02:57:25,720
situation where

5232
02:57:25,720 --> 02:57:28,080
Ryan was thanking everybody at the

5233
02:57:28,080 --> 02:57:28,640
end there

5234
02:57:29,220 --> 02:57:30,460
trying to maybe get

5235
02:57:30,460 --> 02:57:33,280
get on the right side of the

5236
02:57:33,280 --> 02:57:34,640
the situation the people there

5237
02:57:34,640 --> 02:57:39,480
I hope you're all right there Tom

5238
02:57:39,480 --> 02:57:40,600
you sound a little bit like you

5239
02:57:40,600 --> 02:57:41,160
you need to

5240
02:57:41,160 --> 02:57:42,780
cop up a lung

5241
02:57:42,780 --> 02:57:44,320
but um

5242
02:57:44,320 --> 02:57:48,000
yeah nothing really too shocking

5243
02:57:48,000 --> 02:57:54,580
and it was such a cop out Ryan's answer to the big smoking gun question from the fella

5244
02:57:54,580 --> 02:58:17,980
with the red hair who asked him about did you not fucking uh think you know the payments when you saw them published that it was obvious that they were wrong like and nobody just said I should have been more inquisitive so uh yeah I don't know maybe if you're on that much you're probably like you don't even pay any heat on the air.

5245
02:58:17,980 --> 02:58:30,220
to the fucking reports anyway you know or you actually don't even know how much again but I don't believe that but hey what's done is done and can't be undone.

5246
02:58:30,220 --> 02:58:39,260
knee-deep in freddos as antonio prola and also earlier on you did say the exhalation

5247
02:58:39,260 --> 02:58:46,300
big exhalation from uh ryan was when the edible had hit ryan tub of caldbury roses thanks very

5248
02:58:46,300 --> 02:58:54,700
much and phantom farter so the highlights really for me were uh somebody letting rip in there and

5249
02:58:54,700 --> 02:59:00,820
then the obvious disgust on the face of one of the diligent journalists who's there doing the job

5250
02:59:00,820 --> 02:59:07,200
reporting and i doubt that the uh the smell of farts and whatever is gonna get printed about you

5251
02:59:07,200 --> 02:59:13,820
know it's probably always gonna be focused on the answers that were given noel kelly nk ultra

5252
02:59:13,820 --> 02:59:22,620
spoke for most of the the session there um there was also a revelation of a new name for ryan

5253
02:59:22,620 --> 02:59:30,940
tubberdy the toy man um which was one i've never heard of before what else was there now there was

5254
02:59:30,940 --> 02:59:36,340
is there anything else what what else was there oh yeah uh noel kelly constantly touching his face

5255
02:59:36,340 --> 02:59:42,900
that's known as an adapter uh because i'm a psychologist now because i watch loads of

5256
02:59:42,900 --> 02:59:48,340
youtube videos about people who aren't really psychologists saying psychologistic stuff about

5257
02:59:48,340 --> 02:59:57,540
people analysis and all that um so the adapters the uh the self the self-soothing would indicate that there

5258
02:59:57,540 --> 03:00:08,340
was uh an uncomfortable atmosphere and feeling there with nk ultra the toy man is coming for you noel kelly

5259
03:00:08,340 --> 03:00:16,660
nuremberg trials the nigerian cousin this was another one so another uh situation which came

5260
03:00:16,660 --> 03:00:22,660
out of the blue at the woodwork uh your man kelly i think his name was saying that i've got nigerian

5261
03:00:22,660 --> 03:00:33,140
cousins send him emails um there was obviously uh we mentioned the chocolate the young chef was another one who is that is that

5262
03:00:33,140 --> 03:00:40,740
uh what's his face okay i don't even know i can't remember his bloody name is that the good looking fella

5263
03:00:42,180 --> 03:00:50,260
not not dylan don't i can't remember uh name the chef i'm trying to think of the chef scumbly and that's the name

5264
03:00:50,260 --> 03:00:57,940
donald yeah donald skeehan uh ryan in your man's kitchen five days a week that was another situation

5265
03:00:57,940 --> 03:01:04,580
going on there he let that slip as well that ryan was not only the toast of the town and rte the toy

5266
03:01:04,580 --> 03:01:15,460
man so to speak the three four fiver the reno hatchbacker he was also in people's kitchens you know so i mean

5267
03:01:15,460 --> 03:01:20,500
that's something that needs to be looked at that's going to be another big story and maybe maybe another

5268
03:01:20,500 --> 03:01:26,340
separate inquiry committee is going to have to be called to to deal with that did he have was it was

5269
03:01:26,340 --> 03:01:34,100
he allowed was he trespassing was it something that i mean it sounded to me like your man was kind of all

5270
03:01:34,100 --> 03:01:39,940
right with that you know he was like you're in my house five days a week uh i got called donald skeehan

5271
03:01:39,940 --> 03:01:48,500
skeehan at least once a week when i worked in duns says alistair that's not bad i suppose eric miskila

5272
03:01:48,500 --> 03:01:54,180
thank you very much for your comments in the nigerian cousins were looking for spare flip-flops since they

5273
03:01:54,180 --> 03:01:59,540
have the good weather for them donald skeehan thanks for the tip there ryan tub of cavalry roses thank you

5274
03:01:59,540 --> 03:02:06,820
very much as well uh tubs for toys foundation saying vincent to paul what about vincent vincent to paul

5275
03:02:06,820 --> 03:02:12,820
where when will he be dragged in what about the pony remember all the chat about ponies

5276
03:02:13,860 --> 03:02:21,060
uh somebody saying to uh nk ultra that he was a wheeling he was wheeling and dealing you know just

5277
03:02:21,060 --> 03:02:28,980
just phrases like that the kind of infer you know an an air of murkiness around the whole

5278
03:02:30,660 --> 03:02:36,420
contract and negotiation stuff that he was on about there fans in the air he was doing a lot of jazz

5279
03:02:36,420 --> 03:02:45,940
hands as well what do you think tom oh yeah crazy bit of business altogether my personal favorite was

5280
03:02:45,940 --> 03:02:53,380
the 10 10 20 hitting the fan i love that it was beautiful as somebody in the chat said there there was

5281
03:02:53,380 --> 03:03:00,260
such a midlands thing to say yeah well i actually didn't know i mean i've never done a bit any farm

5282
03:03:00,260 --> 03:03:05,620
work or anything like that myself i was pure tony and actually i hadn't done any work anyway do you know

5283
03:03:06,260 --> 03:03:13,300
um but you you got that that that that didn't go over your head tom no it did not i mean i'm actually

5284
03:03:13,300 --> 03:03:19,140
watching from uh from johnny's and there was a big laughter when that happened a few of the lads have

5285
03:03:19,140 --> 03:03:26,020
come in on the afternoon we're having a few jars it's nice nice feeling what feeling the feeling of being pissed

5286
03:03:27,540 --> 03:03:35,780
exacto mondo it's a beautiful field but do do do drink responsibly but it is lovely but it will

5287
03:03:35,780 --> 03:03:37,380
fuck you up if you do it too much

5288
03:03:40,660 --> 03:03:46,420
wise words there from tom harry harry scheitz thanks very much right price tubs thanks very much cash

5289
03:03:46,420 --> 03:03:51,860
and carry may have been involved you say arty paid money out of their slush foot this is what

5290
03:03:51,860 --> 03:03:56,980
somebody is saying in the chat that's not my opinion if arty are watching what are people are going to try

5291
03:03:56,980 --> 03:04:02,820
and sue me or anything like that paid money for out of their slush fund for nk ultra's charity dinner

5292
03:04:02,820 --> 03:04:07,860
for chernobyl what about that one that's the first i've heard about chernobyl being mentioned hopefully

5293
03:04:09,940 --> 03:04:15,380
hopefully there's nothing bad going on or dodgy going on there i mean obviously in chernobyl there was a

5294
03:04:15,380 --> 03:04:19,940
lot of dodginess but i think it's okay now i believe there's people going on holidays there and stuff

5295
03:04:21,380 --> 03:04:25,300
yeah i was actually over there for a few weeks there i went on holiday

5296
03:04:26,420 --> 03:04:33,940
you did and what was it like it was it was very hot and uh i did feel a bit even though there was no

5297
03:04:33,940 --> 03:04:39,220
sunny it was cloudy it was cloudy enough but i i came away with a few red patches on the skin like

5298
03:04:40,660 --> 03:04:43,220
yeah would that would that not be radiation or anything now

5299
03:04:44,820 --> 03:04:52,500
it might be but look try had the factor 50 on yeah i i'm not sure a sun cream will protect you

5300
03:04:53,220 --> 03:05:00,660
you know nuclear kind of radiation but well that's that's what i did that's what i that's what i had on

5301
03:05:01,700 --> 03:05:11,300
i think you need a hazmat suit and a geiger counter pure radiation vibes uh value added tubs says kevin

5302
03:05:11,300 --> 03:05:13,320
and Joyce, you be Gamma Ray

5303
03:05:13,320 --> 03:05:15,400
all the same, Antonio Perala, and you'd

5304
03:05:15,400 --> 03:05:17,320
be fairly chenobbled, says

5305
03:05:17,320 --> 03:05:19,160
Simon Burke.

5306
03:05:19,500 --> 03:05:21,440
I think that's all we have

5307
03:05:21,440 --> 03:05:23,220
for the committee today.

5308
03:05:23,280 --> 03:05:25,340
It says meeting at 4pm. Does anybody

5309
03:05:25,340 --> 03:05:27,400
in the chat know whether or not this is going to

5310
03:05:27,400 --> 03:05:29,380
be coming back on? Because

5311
03:05:29,380 --> 03:05:31,440
it says

5312
03:05:31,440 --> 03:05:33,320
the Joint Justice Committee

5313
03:05:33,320 --> 03:05:35,400
or Joint Committee on Justice is going to be on, but I don't

5314
03:05:35,400 --> 03:05:37,440
think that's anything to do with Ryan's private savings.

5315
03:05:37,660 --> 03:05:38,760
Thanks very much for the tip there.

5316
03:05:39,520 --> 03:05:41,140
Tubbs is back at 3pm, says

5317
03:05:41,140 --> 03:05:43,120
MMCR96.

5318
03:05:46,120 --> 03:05:47,320
Aiden the Average says not

5319
03:05:47,320 --> 03:05:49,560
until Thursday. Thanks for the stream,

5320
03:05:50,280 --> 03:05:51,500
Sean. No problem. Thanks for

5321
03:05:51,500 --> 03:05:53,700
tuning in. And Tupac

5322
03:05:53,700 --> 03:05:55,160
Hologram is going to be on now.

5323
03:05:56,140 --> 03:05:57,600
It's Jimmy. Okay, another one at 3,

5324
03:05:57,660 --> 03:05:59,060
but I'm not sure that's going to be

5325
03:05:59,060 --> 03:06:01,440
NK Ultra

5326
03:06:01,440 --> 03:06:03,640
and the boys. What about

5327
03:06:03,640 --> 03:06:05,700
that solicitor?

5328
03:06:06,660 --> 03:06:07,700
He was doing some

5329
03:06:07,700 --> 03:06:09,360
work. Oh, I forgot about the fucking

5330
03:06:09,360 --> 03:06:11,980
the sport is on the site.

5331
03:06:12,100 --> 03:06:14,780
The fucking I was I was meant to watch the Tour de France.

5332
03:06:15,620 --> 03:06:17,500
Maybe a bit of fucking tennis as well.

5333
03:06:17,780 --> 03:06:19,140
Just chill out watching that.

5334
03:06:19,280 --> 03:06:20,800
Then but I forgot that this was on.

5335
03:06:20,860 --> 03:06:21,760
And once it came on,

5336
03:06:21,820 --> 03:06:24,340
I thought we have to get back on the stream there.

5337
03:06:24,340 --> 03:06:26,140
Back at 3, just different committees.

5338
03:06:26,140 --> 03:06:31,800
I have been downloading games to beat the band.

5339
03:06:32,260 --> 03:06:33,800
I've Dead Space.

5340
03:06:34,200 --> 03:06:37,140
I have got Cyberpunk in my possession.

5341
03:06:37,780 --> 03:06:38,940
I've a load more.

5342
03:06:39,040 --> 03:06:42,200
I've old classics from PS2, PS3 classics.

5343
03:06:42,360 --> 03:06:44,840
I've got the PS3 emulator running on the PC.

5344
03:06:46,200 --> 03:06:47,580
I've all the games bought.

5345
03:06:48,000 --> 03:06:49,940
Don't be fucking trying to sue me about that.

5346
03:06:50,240 --> 03:06:52,580
I can prove to you that I've got the fucking discs.

5347
03:06:53,440 --> 03:06:55,020
If it comes down to the crunch,

5348
03:06:55,100 --> 03:06:55,760
I'll prove to you.

5349
03:06:56,340 --> 03:06:57,460
Tubbs and Trials.

5350
03:06:57,940 --> 03:06:59,260
Thank you very much for the tip there.

5351
03:06:59,740 --> 03:07:02,120
So, you know, that is kind of what I'm

5352
03:07:02,120 --> 03:07:03,780
trying to get going at.

5353
03:07:03,880 --> 03:07:05,720
It's just selecting the right game

5354
03:07:05,720 --> 03:07:07,440
and having the right vibe.

5355
03:07:07,440 --> 03:07:08,880
and then going for that vibe

5356
03:07:08,880 --> 03:07:11,580
and seizing the day car pay DM style.

5357
03:07:13,100 --> 03:07:17,680
But I'm not sure what time or when that is,

5358
03:07:17,760 --> 03:07:19,500
but please believe me.

5359
03:07:19,560 --> 03:07:23,060
It is my biggest intention to get back in

5360
03:07:23,060 --> 03:07:26,020
and just needs to be the right fucking scenario.

5361
03:07:26,120 --> 03:07:26,900
I can't describe it.

5362
03:07:27,180 --> 03:07:28,380
I can't explain what it is.

5363
03:07:29,240 --> 03:07:29,480
Do you know?

5364
03:07:30,980 --> 03:07:31,940
Can't explain what it is.

5365
03:07:31,940 --> 03:07:33,580
This is this.

5366
03:07:33,760 --> 03:07:36,100
When this committee came on and I saw it was on,

5367
03:07:36,360 --> 03:07:37,960
then it was like, this has to be,

5368
03:07:38,080 --> 03:07:39,940
I need to watch this and need to see

5369
03:07:39,940 --> 03:07:42,640
people commenting and chiming in with funny stuff.

5370
03:07:43,520 --> 03:07:45,900
It'll just be a big buzz and I'll buzz off it.

5371
03:07:46,380 --> 03:07:49,500
So I kind of didn't really have any of that feeling

5372
03:07:49,500 --> 03:07:52,700
regarding games, video games, even cyberpunk.

5373
03:07:52,780 --> 03:07:55,160
I started playing it and it's great and everything.

5374
03:07:55,280 --> 03:07:57,880
It looks amazing, but it doesn't really,

5375
03:07:58,080 --> 03:08:00,940
it's not like Fallout in that it's not a,

5376
03:08:03,260 --> 03:08:05,840
it's not an atmosphere that I kind of,

5377
03:08:06,380 --> 03:08:08,320
I'm like, yeah, I want to play more of that.

5378
03:08:09,940 --> 03:08:10,900
I could be wrong though.

5379
03:08:10,940 --> 03:08:12,400
I just have a short attention span.

5380
03:08:12,500 --> 03:08:15,700
It's been ruined and it's getting worse by the day

5381
03:08:15,700 --> 03:08:19,660
because all the media and shite I consume is just like fast.

5382
03:08:20,560 --> 03:08:21,460
Haven't read a book.

5383
03:08:21,520 --> 03:08:22,420
Haven't read a newspaper.

5384
03:08:22,540 --> 03:08:26,740
Haven't read any articles that are longer than fucking 100,

5385
03:08:26,880 --> 03:08:27,600
200 words.

5386
03:08:28,540 --> 03:08:32,960
So maybe the streaming could be a testament to being able to build up that

5387
03:08:32,960 --> 03:08:36,880
ability to be able to stay focused on one thing.

5388
03:08:37,960 --> 03:08:40,480
But anyway, I'm talking shite here.

5389
03:08:40,580 --> 03:08:43,520
I think we have streamed for an hour or two, three hours.

5390
03:08:43,760 --> 03:08:45,760
That's not bad to try and get back into the sway of things.

5391
03:08:45,840 --> 03:08:47,680
Anyway, Harry Shites, thanks very much for the tip there.

5392
03:08:47,760 --> 03:08:50,680
Ryan better be the, bring the K for the condoms.

5393
03:08:50,780 --> 03:08:51,940
You said, I don't know what that means.

5394
03:08:52,000 --> 03:08:52,760
And actually it's not,

5395
03:08:52,840 --> 03:08:56,500
not my opinion or not my words there that someone has wrote that.

5396
03:08:56,660 --> 03:08:57,980
Although I have said that.

5397
03:08:58,060 --> 03:08:59,960
So, I mean, I could be held liable for any sort of,

5398
03:09:01,520 --> 03:09:05,260
I won't bother, won't bother talking anymore because it's just going to give

5399
03:09:05,260 --> 03:09:07,360
people different ideas maybe.

5400
03:09:07,680 --> 03:09:07,980
Right.

5401
03:09:08,060 --> 03:09:09,040
We'll talk to you later on.

5402
03:09:09,820 --> 03:09:11,140
Thanks very much for joining us.

5403
03:09:11,220 --> 03:09:12,320
It's been a wonderful afternoon.

5404
03:09:12,780 --> 03:09:16,380
And unfortunately we didn't get to see Tupac Shakur, the hologram,

5405
03:09:16,480 --> 03:09:17,960
but that's fast way for you.

5406
03:09:18,600 --> 03:09:20,120
Good night and God bless.

5407
03:09:20,280 --> 03:09:21,480
And we'll hopefully see you soon.

5408
03:09:21,840 --> 03:09:23,300
Hopefully these boys are going to be back again.

5409
03:09:23,380 --> 03:09:23,540
Are they?

5410
03:09:23,620 --> 03:09:25,080
If they are, then we'll be back.

5411
03:09:25,080 --> 03:09:26,820
if there's any more funny stuff

5412
03:09:26,820 --> 03:09:29,520
that's on in the committee rooms or whatever, I'll try and get back.

5413
03:09:29,540 --> 03:09:31,600
I don't think we're going to match that level of

5414
03:09:31,600 --> 03:09:33,160
uncomfortability

5415
03:09:33,160 --> 03:09:35,520
and sweatiness. It was a sweaty

5416
03:09:35,520 --> 03:09:36,720
room. It was a sweatbox.

5417
03:09:37,700 --> 03:09:39,340
But we'll talk to you later on. Anyway,

5418
03:09:39,460 --> 03:09:40,640
thanks very much for joining us.

5419
03:09:41,520 --> 03:09:43,600
Yep, thanks very much, folks. Hopefully you're

5420
03:09:43,600 --> 03:09:45,540
getting on well and all the best,

5421
03:09:45,660 --> 03:09:47,560
you. Thanks very much for joining

5422
03:09:47,560 --> 03:09:47,820
us.

5423
03:09:50,540 --> 03:09:51,160
That's that.

5424
03:09:51,500 --> 03:09:53,080
We'll talk to you later, lads. Bye-bye.

5425
03:09:53,080 --> 03:09:55,080
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